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	<title>Comments on: Are You Getting a Dell?</title>
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		<title>by: obeewaan</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-995</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How about from the Dell Canada site:
XPS M1330  - as below - Starting From  $1,458* 
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Update PriceDiscount DetailsPrint SummaryComponents
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7500 (2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB, 4MB Cache)
Ubuntu Linux version 7.10 with DVD Playback
Tuxedo Black
Standard Display with 2.0 Megapixel Webcam
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz
120GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 3100
CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW Drive)
Intel® 3945 802.11a/g Mini-card
85Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell)
Built-in Bluetooth capability (2.0 EDR)
High Definition Audio 2.0
Essentials
1 Year Return to Depot Service and Technical Support
Accessories
Biometric Fingerprint Reader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about from the Dell Canada site:<br />
XPS M1330  - as below - Starting From  $1,458*<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Update PriceDiscount DetailsPrint SummaryComponents<br />
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7500 (2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB, 4MB Cache)<br />
Ubuntu Linux version 7.10 with DVD Playback<br />
Tuxedo Black<br />
Standard Display with 2.0 Megapixel Webcam<br />
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz<br />
120GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)<br />
Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 3100<br />
CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW Drive)<br />
Intel® 3945 802.11a/g Mini-card<br />
85Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell)<br />
Built-in Bluetooth capability (2.0 EDR)<br />
High Definition Audio 2.0<br />
Essentials<br />
1 Year Return to Depot Service and Technical Support<br />
Accessories<br />
Biometric Fingerprint Reader
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		<title>by: mccancew</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-993</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I tried to buy a Dell. I even suggested I would like a dual boot XPS or D830 precision. But they could only offer me the base Ubuntu insprion 1525. Its a good start for the newbies. But I want something with a loty more grunt and database processing power.

Ideas are welcomed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to buy a Dell. I even suggested I would like a dual boot XPS or D830 precision. But they could only offer me the base Ubuntu insprion 1525. Its a good start for the newbies. But I want something with a loty more grunt and database processing power.</p>
<p>Ideas are welcomed
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		<title>by: beachbum125</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-142</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-142</guid>
					<description>@Margrave

You build your own garbage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Margrave</p>
<p>You build your own garbage?
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		<title>by: simon bridge</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-127</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-127</guid>
					<description>It has been observed that the bare-bones linux and vista offerings (on the same hardware) are about the same price. While this is true, the comparison was never fair... you have to remember to equalize the software!

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2775502#post2775502

The MS boxes come with windows, works 8.0, IE6, and little else. Ubuntu comes with... well, we know, don't we.

(Note... budget MS box is about $300 ... can we have a budget linux version or is linux only for rich people?)

In fact, if you were to scout the web for bargains and build your own box, the dell offering is not a lot cheaper (I would have expected better from such a large supplier). The value added is that they do the donkeywork for you (like dinner at a restaurant - more expensive but no cooking, dishes, blah.)

The saving was always going to be software.

Further... DELL are not and never intended to *market* linux to the masses. They intend only to sell linux to people who already knew they wanted linux.

If you don't like ubuntu, but want dell (but why?) then from the liux page yau can follow the link to Open Source laptops. This gets you a blank HDD and a copy of freedos. (I think their MS contract forbids them from selling computers without as OS but fails to specify...)

Unfortunately, if you want linux for your business... the "business" link takes you to MS again!

Until recently, the extended warrenty was missing on the linux builds... as if linux damages hardware.

There are fewer options for linux customization.

Would be nice to see "customize with linux as an option alongside "customize with Vista" and "customize with XP".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been observed that the bare-bones linux and vista offerings (on the same hardware) are about the same price. While this is true, the comparison was never fair&#8230; you have to remember to equalize the software!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2775502#post2775502" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2775502#post2775502</a></p>
<p>The MS boxes come with windows, works 8.0, IE6, and little else. Ubuntu comes with&#8230; well, we know, don&#8217;t we.</p>
<p>(Note&#8230; budget MS box is about $300 &#8230; can we have a budget linux version or is linux only for rich people?)</p>
<p>In fact, if you were to scout the web for bargains and build your own box, the dell offering is not a lot cheaper (I would have expected better from such a large supplier). The value added is that they do the donkeywork for you (like dinner at a restaurant - more expensive but no cooking, dishes, blah.)</p>
<p>The saving was always going to be software.</p>
<p>Further&#8230; DELL are not and never intended to *market* linux to the masses. They intend only to sell linux to people who already knew they wanted linux.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like ubuntu, but want dell (but why?) then from the liux page yau can follow the link to Open Source laptops. This gets you a blank HDD and a copy of freedos. (I think their MS contract forbids them from selling computers without as OS but fails to specify&#8230;)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, if you want linux for your business&#8230; the &#8220;business&#8221; link takes you to MS again!</p>
<p>Until recently, the extended warrenty was missing on the linux builds&#8230; as if linux damages hardware.</p>
<p>There are fewer options for linux customization.</p>
<p>Would be nice to see &#8220;customize with linux as an option alongside &#8220;customize with Vista&#8221; and &#8220;customize with XP&#8221;.
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		<title>by: shaochun wang</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-125</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 06:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-125</guid>
					<description>I think what distribution of pre-installed Linux is unimportant, and instead it is important to sell a system which is full Linux compatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what distribution of pre-installed Linux is unimportant, and instead it is important to sell a system which is full Linux compatible.
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		<title>by: madmod</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-119</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 11:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-119</guid>
					<description>I purchased a Dell Inspiron E1505n with Ubuntu 7.04 preinstalled.  Not wanting the Dell partition, I reformatted the drive and reinstalled Ubuntu 7.04 so as to use the entire hard drive.  (A quick note on this: reset the BIOS boot order to have the HDD last so Ubuntu can be reinstalled from the CD.) 

The computer is now working just fine.  For myself there appear to be no issues getting in the way of what I need to do with this notebook.  It's found all my peripherals, connects well with wireless, etc.  I've since downloaded all the additional software I need to get my work done.  Updates and upgrades via the package manager have been installed without unresolved issues.  

What's not to like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased a Dell Inspiron E1505n with Ubuntu 7.04 preinstalled.  Not wanting the Dell partition, I reformatted the drive and reinstalled Ubuntu 7.04 so as to use the entire hard drive.  (A quick note on this: reset the BIOS boot order to have the HDD last so Ubuntu can be reinstalled from the CD.) </p>
<p>The computer is now working just fine.  For myself there appear to be no issues getting in the way of what I need to do with this notebook.  It&#8217;s found all my peripherals, connects well with wireless, etc.  I&#8217;ve since downloaded all the additional software I need to get my work done.  Updates and upgrades via the package manager have been installed without unresolved issues.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s not to like?
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		<title>by: Patrick Berry</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-115</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-115</guid>
					<description>Simply the fact that a computer can run any GNU/Linux distro is a plus for me, and my hundreds of clients.

Now, Asus is trying to get into the game!  Perhaps because their server, running M$, was pwned for a week?  

Although M$ dominates the US market, GNU/Linux is affordable, and on the leading edge, in other places, such as China, India, Asia, Africa, the middle East, developing nations, the Rest of the World!

It is hard to shove the M$ FUD in the face of the reality of bad M$ experiences, and current government support of Open Source.  

Yes, I have seen a lot of reports of bribery of officials, by M$, in the US, and in the world, as reported in the local press of those nations, that I find online! 

I don't think M$ has enough money to bribe 1 billion Chinese, 1.25 billion on the Indian sub-continent, and the billion other Asians and Africans...

My next laptop will be a Linux running Dell, unless Asus can get here quicker, cheaper, with their $189.00 Linux laptop!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply the fact that a computer can run any GNU/Linux distro is a plus for me, and my hundreds of clients.</p>
<p>Now, Asus is trying to get into the game!  Perhaps because their server, running M$, was pwned for a week?  </p>
<p>Although M$ dominates the US market, GNU/Linux is affordable, and on the leading edge, in other places, such as China, India, Asia, Africa, the middle East, developing nations, the Rest of the World!</p>
<p>It is hard to shove the M$ FUD in the face of the reality of bad M$ experiences, and current government support of Open Source.  </p>
<p>Yes, I have seen a lot of reports of bribery of officials, by M$, in the US, and in the world, as reported in the local press of those nations, that I find online! </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think M$ has enough money to bribe 1 billion Chinese, 1.25 billion on the Indian sub-continent, and the billion other Asians and Africans&#8230;</p>
<p>My next laptop will be a Linux running Dell, unless Asus can get here quicker, cheaper, with their $189.00 Linux laptop!
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		<title>by: john dumont</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-99</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-99</guid>
					<description>Intel has come out with their own laptop motherboard so now you can grow your own laptops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intel has come out with their own laptop motherboard so now you can grow your own laptops.
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		<title>by: bugmenot07</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-93</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-93</guid>
					<description>While I have no specific problem with Dell, I prefer leading edge hardware and software.  My distribution of choice would be Fedora.  As for the hardware, I can buy a well appointed Santa Rosa notebook for the price of Dell's last generation notebook.  Their product is simply not compelling or price competitive as far as I can see.

For many, Asus' new $189 Linux MID laptop would be more than enough.  Times are changing, and I don't see Dell changing with them.  They are reactionary, not proactive.  This puts them well behind the technology curve.  Maybe their slogan should be "We're Dell, get off our lawn!".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have no specific problem with Dell, I prefer leading edge hardware and software.  My distribution of choice would be Fedora.  As for the hardware, I can buy a well appointed Santa Rosa notebook for the price of Dell&#8217;s last generation notebook.  Their product is simply not compelling or price competitive as far as I can see.</p>
<p>For many, Asus&#8217; new $189 Linux MID laptop would be more than enough.  Times are changing, and I don&#8217;t see Dell changing with them.  They are reactionary, not proactive.  This puts them well behind the technology curve.  Maybe their slogan should be &#8220;We&#8217;re Dell, get off our lawn!&#8221;.
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		<title>by: J D</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3391/#comment-86</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I will be purchasing a laptop in the coming months.
Im gonna go with a Dell specifically cause they are offering GNU/Linux laptops.
Just wish they had options with what distro u wanted.
Anyway ill just swap out the Ubuntu with Fedora 7.
Way to go Dell just wish there was a bigger list of hardware to choose from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be purchasing a laptop in the coming months.<br />
Im gonna go with a Dell specifically cause they are offering GNU/Linux laptops.<br />
Just wish they had options with what distro u wanted.<br />
Anyway ill just swap out the Ubuntu with Fedora 7.<br />
Way to go Dell just wish there was a bigger list of hardware to choose from.
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