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	<title>Comments on: Buy an iPhone, Kill a Kitten</title>
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		<title>by: waxhawg</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-383</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jobs is a visionary, and many of his ideas have shaped how we lived, whether you agree with his approach or not. He may have stolen the GUI idea from Xerox and had it stolen from him by Gates, but he introduced it to us, the world. His iPod created the digital music industry from nothing, an industry that was much more viable than the dying CD retail market and the piracy-based Napster. The iPhone has raised the bar for all wireless carriers and cell phone manufacturers. And, oh yeah, there's Pixar, and the whole 3D cartoon animation industry it spawned. So I guess acknowledging these accomplishments makes me a fan boy or whatever the nomenclature is. You guys sit around saying it needs to be this code or that code, or it needs to be Open Source, running on any network, etc. Technologies change every year. Ideas, creativity and vision are much more longterm. To say that Apple is fashion is to miss the forest for the trees. If some of the writers here were a little more outside the box, they wouldn't have to count their pennies so much when deciding to buy an iPhone. Their superior intellect would have made them wealthy enough that they could care less whether the iPhone was $600 or $400 or $50. They would just be able to recognize that another era in communication standards had been ushered in. Six months from now maybe everyone will be clammering for a NEO and then six months beyond that, some other leapfrog product, but the rules all just changed with the iPhone. If you don't see that, your eyes are closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobs is a visionary, and many of his ideas have shaped how we lived, whether you agree with his approach or not. He may have stolen the GUI idea from Xerox and had it stolen from him by Gates, but he introduced it to us, the world. His iPod created the digital music industry from nothing, an industry that was much more viable than the dying CD retail market and the piracy-based Napster. The iPhone has raised the bar for all wireless carriers and cell phone manufacturers. And, oh yeah, there&#8217;s Pixar, and the whole 3D cartoon animation industry it spawned. So I guess acknowledging these accomplishments makes me a fan boy or whatever the nomenclature is. You guys sit around saying it needs to be this code or that code, or it needs to be Open Source, running on any network, etc. Technologies change every year. Ideas, creativity and vision are much more longterm. To say that Apple is fashion is to miss the forest for the trees. If some of the writers here were a little more outside the box, they wouldn&#8217;t have to count their pennies so much when deciding to buy an iPhone. Their superior intellect would have made them wealthy enough that they could care less whether the iPhone was $600 or $400 or $50. They would just be able to recognize that another era in communication standards had been ushered in. Six months from now maybe everyone will be clammering for a NEO and then six months beyond that, some other leapfrog product, but the rules all just changed with the iPhone. If you don&#8217;t see that, your eyes are closed.
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		<title>by: severndigital</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-371</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>agreed bevil hive.

it's one thing to critique a product, and even highlight it's short comings, but an article that is made up mostly of fiction and/or FUD opinions is not something I wish to see in an FOSS based magazine/webzine.

Does LM have an editing department? I would hope than someone who read this article before it was published would have seen the blatant errors (ipod proprietary files, etc..) and pulled this article or at least advised that it should be corrected before publishing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed bevil hive.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s one thing to critique a product, and even highlight it&#8217;s short comings, but an article that is made up mostly of fiction and/or FUD opinions is not something I wish to see in an FOSS based magazine/webzine.</p>
<p>Does LM have an editing department? I would hope than someone who read this article before it was published would have seen the blatant errors (ipod proprietary files, etc..) and pulled this article or at least advised that it should be corrected before publishing it.
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		<title>by: bevil hive</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-293</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd say that J.P. is engaging in FUD. It's a subtle FUD largely built on omission but FUD all the same. I am neither Apple fanboy nor MS apologist, just calling as I see it. These tactics do FOSS great injustise IMO. You give the impression that NO Linux -based Cells/Smartphones exist (obviously not the case, as noted in preceding comments. Critizising iPods by misrepresenting codec support and not acknowloging Open-Source efforts like RockBox and iPodLinux; fireware that will convert your pod (and  
other DAPs) into Vorbis and FLAC compatible. In fact  
15 codecs in all.
FOSS or just lackluster writing? Whatever it is,
I'm seeing more and more of it and LM and am seriously considering ending my subscription.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that J.P. is engaging in FUD. It&#8217;s a subtle FUD largely built on omission but FUD all the same. I am neither Apple fanboy nor MS apologist, just calling as I see it. These tactics do FOSS great injustise IMO. You give the impression that NO Linux -based Cells/Smartphones exist (obviously not the case, as noted in preceding comments. Critizising iPods by misrepresenting codec support and not acknowloging Open-Source efforts like RockBox and iPodLinux; fireware that will convert your pod (and<br />
other DAPs) into Vorbis and FLAC compatible. In fact<br />
15 codecs in all.<br />
FOSS or just lackluster writing? Whatever it is,<br />
I&#8217;m seeing more and more of it and LM and am seriously considering ending my subscription.
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		<title>by: bevil hive</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-292</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-292</guid>
					<description>wow. LM gets worse all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. LM gets worse all the time.
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		<title>by: jz33040</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-271</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-271</guid>
					<description>The article is pretty much all true.  Anyone who says they think the writer is an idiot is obviously a threatened Apple fan boy.  Apple USED to have a good thing back when the first Apples came out.  After that, they only survived by using their brain washing techniques on the easily susceptible.  Making something with pleasing esthetics that would appeal to people, 90% of which want to believe they can "Think Different".

  They've had misleading commercials for years.  In an effort to show their simplicity they'd often show a computer that had nothing plugged in for example.  Usually young teens in school fall for this.  It's also the reason they push their tech to  universities etc.  Going on, they've had some of their TV ads pulled for being deceptive.  In one particular one they said their processor was the fastest when it wasn't.  Once you sit back and observe the mentality of the marketing behind Apple it becomes to clear that they are and have always been a desperate company that tries to sucker who ever they can.  I almost feel bad to state the truth, but that's what it is.  

Then when it all starts to fall apart they put the processor they used to make fun of in their own computers, namely Intel.  From the CPU to the USB ports, to the bus, memory etc.  There is really nothing different other than their software which if it were to ever become popular would be hacked into a million pieces by virus writers in no time.

They there's the fact that since most of their following aren't knowledgeable enough to understand that MP3's are where it started, they convert everything into Apples proprietary format which causes all kinds of problems.  You can actually lose your own rights unless all you do is buy a new song every week.  And then it's still possible to get screwed by Apple if you are not really careful.  Believe me.  Apple isn't there to make using music easy.  

And because they advertise to "smug" people, they get their nose up in the air and become Apple snobs.  Oh, I could go on, and on and on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is pretty much all true.  Anyone who says they think the writer is an idiot is obviously a threatened Apple fan boy.  Apple USED to have a good thing back when the first Apples came out.  After that, they only survived by using their brain washing techniques on the easily susceptible.  Making something with pleasing esthetics that would appeal to people, 90% of which want to believe they can &#8220;Think Different&#8221;.</p>
<p>  They&#8217;ve had misleading commercials for years.  In an effort to show their simplicity they&#8217;d often show a computer that had nothing plugged in for example.  Usually young teens in school fall for this.  It&#8217;s also the reason they push their tech to  universities etc.  Going on, they&#8217;ve had some of their TV ads pulled for being deceptive.  In one particular one they said their processor was the fastest when it wasn&#8217;t.  Once you sit back and observe the mentality of the marketing behind Apple it becomes to clear that they are and have always been a desperate company that tries to sucker who ever they can.  I almost feel bad to state the truth, but that&#8217;s what it is.  </p>
<p>Then when it all starts to fall apart they put the processor they used to make fun of in their own computers, namely Intel.  From the CPU to the USB ports, to the bus, memory etc.  There is really nothing different other than their software which if it were to ever become popular would be hacked into a million pieces by virus writers in no time.</p>
<p>They there&#8217;s the fact that since most of their following aren&#8217;t knowledgeable enough to understand that MP3&#8217;s are where it started, they convert everything into Apples proprietary format which causes all kinds of problems.  You can actually lose your own rights unless all you do is buy a new song every week.  And then it&#8217;s still possible to get screwed by Apple if you are not really careful.  Believe me.  Apple isn&#8217;t there to make using music easy.  </p>
<p>And because they advertise to &#8220;smug&#8221; people, they get their nose up in the air and become Apple snobs.  Oh, I could go on, and on and on.
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		<title>by: Jeff Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-268</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-268</guid>
					<description>My first impression after reading the original article was that it was a waste of time and not a very good article.

But after reading the responses, I think that if an article can illicit that kind of responses, then it must be good. It got people thinking (and writing). The information contained in the responses was extremely informative and I learned a lot from those comments. Any article that can do that, is ok in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first impression after reading the original article was that it was a waste of time and not a very good article.</p>
<p>But after reading the responses, I think that if an article can illicit that kind of responses, then it must be good. It got people thinking (and writing). The information contained in the responses was extremely informative and I learned a lot from those comments. Any article that can do that, is ok in my book.
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		<title>by: severndigital</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-264</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-264</guid>
					<description>I too continue coming back to view the comments on this one. it seems that Jason struck a chord with a lot of people Both a good one and a bad one, but chord non the less. Kudos on mentioning TiVo, an excellent example of an OpenSource platform being utilized in a very positive way. However, look at the many of “TiVo Like” commercial boxes that have been spawned from that. Comcast, RCN, ProLog are the three cable companies in my area an they all have a box that is by far below TiVo’s level of service and technology. People are buying it and paying for it because they either do not know about TiVo or do not understand the difference.

This goes back to my original final statement. Until people understand that the monitor switch on the computer does NOT turn the control the computer itself, we will have a hard time convincing them that OpenSource is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too continue coming back to view the comments on this one. it seems that Jason struck a chord with a lot of people Both a good one and a bad one, but chord non the less. Kudos on mentioning TiVo, an excellent example of an OpenSource platform being utilized in a very positive way. However, look at the many of “TiVo Like” commercial boxes that have been spawned from that. Comcast, RCN, ProLog are the three cable companies in my area an they all have a box that is by far below TiVo’s level of service and technology. People are buying it and paying for it because they either do not know about TiVo or do not understand the difference.</p>
<p>This goes back to my original final statement. Until people understand that the monitor switch on the computer does NOT turn the control the computer itself, we will have a hard time convincing them that OpenSource is a good thing.
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		<title>by: Jason Perlow</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-258</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>YES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES!
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		<title>by: Don Juan</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-257</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Do they actually pay this IDIOT to write this CRAP???</description>
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		<title>by: saberraz</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-256</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3854/#comment-256</guid>
					<description>check this:
http://www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check this:<br />
<a href="http://www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800" rel="nofollow">http://www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800</a>
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