Comments on: VMware Server Episode 2.0: The Revenge of the Web UI http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/ Open Source, Open Standards Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:25:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: rzoch http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-694 Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:47:05 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-694 "I would come out with" and "I might write" are the reasons why VMware has such a huge market share. ESX and VCS are incredibly easy to use and reliable -- they're proven products. If Xen, KVM, et al can catch up to VMware's flexibility, support, and management tools, then "I will." “I would come out with” and “I might write” are the reasons why VMware has such a huge market share. ESX and VCS are incredibly easy to use and reliable — they’re proven products. If Xen, KVM, et al can catch up to VMware’s flexibility, support, and management tools, then “I will.”

]]> by: Jason Perlow http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-638 Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:05:04 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-638 Take a look at XenServer. Its a very nice solution, owned by Citrix. They have a free version you can download that is limited to running 4 VMs simultaneously (that can be upgraded to the unlimited full version with a license code) and has a very nice management front end, although it is Windows-based. The server is a single CD that you install on fresh hardware, eats up almost no resources, automagically creates the hypervisor platform and is ready to go in a matter of minutes. It is based on Debian using the Xen hypervisor. Another solution that might have a lot of potential is Qumranet (http://www.qumranet.com) the company that officially sponsors the KVM project. However I havent actually played with the product yet. What I have heard and seen from the demos though seems to be really good, though. Take a look at XenServer. Its a very nice solution, owned by Citrix. They have a free version you can download that is limited to running 4 VMs simultaneously (that can be upgraded to the unlimited full version with a license code) and has a very nice management front end, although it is Windows-based. The server is a single CD that you install on fresh hardware, eats up almost no resources, automagically creates the hypervisor platform and is ready to go in a matter of minutes. It is based on Debian using the Xen hypervisor.

Another solution that might have a lot of potential is Qumranet (http://www.qumranet.com) the company that officially sponsors the KVM project. However I havent actually played with the product yet. What I have heard and seen from the demos though seems to be really good, though.

]]> by: Rick Bell http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-636 Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:18:49 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-636 Any comments/reviews on Xen? I may be interested in both a VM server solution (small-size corp) for both Linux and Windows but not really interested in VMWare at the time. Any comments/reviews on Xen? I may be interested in both a VM server solution (small-size corp) for both Linux and Windows but not really interested in VMWare at the time.

]]> by: Jason Perlow http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-633 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:48:44 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-633 Pacs: Some of us end users who do not purchase VMWare products for our own personal uses are influencers or direct decision makers in environments that -do- spend money on things like ESX and Virtualcenter. So IT consultants and developers who need to prototype, become VCPs, solution providers, etc, who create these things for customers that do need the free server solution and they need one that works. Just because these individuals arent putting dents in their own Mastercards doesn't mean that VMWare isn't making money from us down the road. And they knew that when they offered a free solution to begin with. Its called viral marketing. But when you mess with a forumla that worked for a lot of people, your userbase -- the same one that reccomends and implements the expensive version of the enterprise product for VMware's customers, you create an untenable situation and it forces people to go elsewhere for solutions. Pacs:

Some of us end users who do not purchase VMWare products for our own personal uses are influencers or direct decision makers in environments that -do- spend money on things like ESX and Virtualcenter. So IT consultants and developers who need to prototype, become VCPs, solution providers, etc, who create these things for customers that do need the free server solution and they need one that works. Just because these individuals arent putting dents in their own Mastercards doesn’t mean that VMWare isn’t making money from us down the road. And they knew that when they offered a free solution to begin with. Its called viral marketing. But when you mess with a forumla that worked for a lot of people, your userbase — the same one that reccomends and implements the expensive version of the enterprise product for VMware’s customers, you create an untenable situation and it forces people to go elsewhere for solutions.

]]> by: pacsguy http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-632 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:59:19 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-632 Just playing devil's advocate here, but how many of you who are "withdrawing your support" for vmware are actually supporting them? (as in, paying for licenses or support, or contributing code?) My guess is, not many. One of the posters above even admits to using vmware server for business.. WTF is up with that? It's people like that you all should be mad at. My company bought vmware workstation licenses (we use vms for validation testing of our software product and cross os development), but ended up switching to the free offering (vmware server) for reasons that I can't remember now. Bottom line though is that if I need cut and paste bewteen OS, I'll license the product. The price for a dozen workstation licenses is a hell of a lot better than the price of a dozen servers at 10k a pop. Just my .02 Just playing devil’s advocate here, but how many of you who are “withdrawing your support” for vmware are actually supporting them? (as in, paying for licenses or support, or contributing code?)

My guess is, not many. One of the posters above even admits to using vmware server for business.. WTF is up with that? It’s people like that you all should be mad at.

My company bought vmware workstation licenses (we use vms for validation testing of our software product and cross os development), but ended up switching to the free offering (vmware server) for reasons that I can’t remember now. Bottom line though is that if I need cut and paste bewteen OS, I’ll license the product. The price for a dozen workstation licenses is a hell of a lot better than the price of a dozen servers at 10k a pop.

Just my .02

]]> by: ebo thompson http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-629 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:03:29 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-629 have they forgotten that windows crashes for some of the most unbeleiveable reasons. well let them not say they were not warned ... have they forgotten that windows crashes for some of the most unbeleiveable reasons. well let them not say they were not warned …

]]> by: sargenthp http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-626 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:29:45 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-626 Windows-based Virtual Infrastructure client is what crashes all the time. Why can't they write something that will work from Linux? All our VMWare servers have been up for an average of 300 days! Can't say the same the VMVC server. Now that HP is supporting Xen we are looking in to that path! <a href="http://www.ronpaul2008.com" rel="nofollow">Go Ron Paul!!!</a> Windows-based Virtual Infrastructure client is what crashes all the time. Why can’t they write something that will work from Linux? All our VMWare servers have been up for an average of 300 days! Can’t say the same the VMVC server. Now that HP is supporting Xen we are looking in to that path!

Go Ron Paul!!!

]]> by: klema13 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-623 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:13:58 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-623 old customer is gone to ... sorry From: WebForm@vmware.com To: ***@**** Subject: VMware License Key Date: ** Jul 1999 ********** The VMware Team # VMware software license Fields = "Cpt, Name, Email, LicenseType, LicenseClass, Count, LicenseKey, ProductID, ProductType" Cpt = "COPYRIGHT (c) VMware, Inc. 1999" Name = "***********" Email = "***********" LicenseType = "User" LicenseClass = "Non-Commercial" Count = "1 of 1" LicenseKey = "*" ProductID = "VMware for Linux" ProductType = "1.0" old customer is gone to …
sorry

From: WebForm@vmware.com
To: ***@****
Subject: VMware License Key
Date: ** Jul 1999 **********

The VMware Team
# VMware software license
Fields = “Cpt, Name, Email, LicenseType, LicenseClass, Count, LicenseKey, ProductID, ProductType”
Cpt = “COPYRIGHT (c) VMware, Inc. 1999″
Name = “***********”
Email = “***********”
LicenseType = “User”
LicenseClass = “Non-Commercial”
Count = “1 of 1″
LicenseKey = “*”
ProductID = “VMware for Linux”
ProductType = “1.0″

]]> by: TJ Candlen http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-622 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:59:21 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-622 VirtualBox supports clipboard copy/paste between guest and host. VirtualBox supports clipboard copy/paste between guest and host.

]]> by: Pravat Santra http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-619 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:11:27 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4403/#comment-619 Hummm, Now here it from an Admin's point of view... What most individuals (desktop dudes) / organizations (mid size) doing today is to use virtual*n on VMware server platform with out bothering about buying ESX/W6.0 with heavy bucks... resulting losses to VMware Inc. So, from VMware Inc's point of view, they had enough with this GSX funda, now drop one by one major features and make people to go for ESX... and force desktop users to go for Workstation 6.0 Hummm,
Now here it from an Admin’s point of view…

What most individuals (desktop dudes) / organizations (mid size) doing today is to use virtual*n on VMware server platform with out bothering about buying ESX/W6.0 with heavy bucks… resulting losses to VMware Inc. So, from VMware Inc’s point of view, they had enough with this GSX funda, now drop one by one major features and make people to go for ESX… and force desktop users to go for Workstation 6.0

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