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		<title>By: Yury</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna  Posted on     Beautiful&#8230; you alwyas make Him seem so personal and like He is your best friend&#8230; and it makes others want it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna  Posted on     Beautiful&#8230; you alwyas make Him seem so personal and like He is your best friend&#8230; and it makes others want it too.</p>
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		<title>By: jlargent</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5421</link>
		<dc:creator>jlargent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like 1/4 finished copy of nagios to me.</description>
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		<title>By: lagosm</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5422</link>
		<dc:creator>lagosm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with that. It looks like nagios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with that. It looks like nagios.</p>
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		<title>By: vordan</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5423</link>
		<dc:creator>vordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zenoss.com/&quot; title=&quot;Zenoss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zenoss&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about <a href="http://www.zenoss.com/" title="Zenoss" rel="nofollow">Zenoss</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: richzendy</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5424</link>
		<dc:creator>richzendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zabbix.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zabbix&lt;/a&gt; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about <a href="http://www.zabbix.com/" rel="nofollow">zabbix</a> ?</p>
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		<title>By: mbw</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5425</link>
		<dc:creator>mbw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if nagios or hobbit have a fully-baked VMWare ESX server plugin that runs in the service console and tells the status of the Disk and CPU of the whole machine? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve rooted around for a Hobbit plugin, but there is nothing that works without a lot of hacking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if nagios or hobbit have a fully-baked VMWare ESX server plugin that runs in the service console and tells the status of the Disk and CPU of the whole machine? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve rooted around for a Hobbit plugin, but there is nothing that works without a lot of hacking.</p>
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		<title>By: krowton</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5426</link>
		<dc:creator>krowton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hobbit is a great place to start monitoring. Opensource tools like Nagios (Much more robust and harder to configure) and Groundworks (A nagios front end and more) will do you much better in the long run. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbit is by far the easiest to install and configure of the three I have mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hobbit is a great place to start monitoring. Opensource tools like Nagios (Much more robust and harder to configure) and Groundworks (A nagios front end and more) will do you much better in the long run. </p>
<p>Hobbit is by far the easiest to install and configure of the three I have mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: silversphere</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5427</link>
		<dc:creator>silversphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have to try, I used Nagios for a long time, I find it complex, it was error prone for some times, Has any one used BigBrother !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have to try, I used Nagios for a long time, I find it complex, it was error prone for some times, Has any one used BigBrother !</p>
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		<title>By: evert</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5428</link>
		<dc:creator>evert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may also want to look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mikrotik.com/thedude.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Dude&lt;/a&gt;. Originally made for Windows, but it runs fine under Wine. It&#039;s got some good auto-discovery/scanning/probing features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may also want to look at <a href="http://www.mikrotik.com/thedude.php" rel="nofollow">the Dude</a>. Originally made for Windows, but it runs fine under Wine. It&#8217;s got some good auto-discovery/scanning/probing features.</p>
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		<title>By: andyg54321</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5429</link>
		<dc:creator>andyg54321</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude? Dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude? Dude.</p>
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		<title>By: gchetrick</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5430</link>
		<dc:creator>gchetrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dude? not only does the name suck but, if they can&#039;t run a native agent in linux, probably not going to get installed on my machines, seems a little bonky to run monitoring in WINE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dude? not only does the name suck but, if they can&#8217;t run a native agent in linux, probably not going to get installed on my machines, seems a little bonky to run monitoring in WINE.</p>
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		<title>By: gchetrick</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5431</link>
		<dc:creator>gchetrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used both Nagios and BB, I prefer Nagios. But they both have advantages, BB is much eaiser to configure. Hobbit is basically BB, if I remember correctly the original developer of BB is the current developer of Hobbit, just after he sold BB to Quest. In early versions the alert screens looked the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used both Nagios and BB, I prefer Nagios. But they both have advantages, BB is much eaiser to configure. Hobbit is basically BB, if I remember correctly the original developer of BB is the current developer of Hobbit, just after he sold BB to Quest. In early versions the alert screens looked the same.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinw1</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5432</link>
		<dc:creator>kevinw1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We previously used BB but have moved to hobbit and have been greatly impressed.  It is very easy to produce your own alerts or modify existingones.  There are lots of standard ones to choose from at deadcat.org.  One of the most useful things with hobbit is it is easy to fire off a script to fix common problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We previously used BB but have moved to hobbit and have been greatly impressed.  It is very easy to produce your own alerts or modify existingones.  There are lots of standard ones to choose from at deadcat.org.  One of the most useful things with hobbit is it is easy to fire off a script to fix common problems.</p>
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		<title>By: jrichard@sciquest.co</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5433</link>
		<dc:creator>jrichard@sciquest.co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We used bb for years, and have recently migrated to hobbit... Transition was painless, all of our custom bb scripts came over with little or no modification. We have &gt; 30 monitoring everything from db2 to tomcat. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbit is much more stable then bb was. We used to have problems with bb server side network checks getting hung up and driving subsequent checks purple. But this has been fixed with the C based hobbit server side checks. Also the escalation of checks from 5 minutes to every minute on red has improved our SLA numbers since the minimum outage is now a minute instead of 5. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We liked BB we Love Hobbit. :)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We&#039;ve also recently played with ZenOss... It&#039;s a different animal as it&#039;s an snnp console. I think we may wind up with both eventually. But there are snnp hooks for bb/hobbit we will probably play with those before we decide one way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We used bb for years, and have recently migrated to hobbit&#8230; Transition was painless, all of our custom bb scripts came over with little or no modification. We have &gt; 30 monitoring everything from db2 to tomcat. </p>
<p>Hobbit is much more stable then bb was. We used to have problems with bb server side network checks getting hung up and driving subsequent checks purple. But this has been fixed with the C based hobbit server side checks. Also the escalation of checks from 5 minutes to every minute on red has improved our SLA numbers since the minimum outage is now a minute instead of 5. </p>
<p>We liked BB we Love Hobbit. :)</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve also recently played with ZenOss&#8230; It&#8217;s a different animal as it&#8217;s an snnp console. I think we may wind up with both eventually. But there are snnp hooks for bb/hobbit we will probably play with those before we decide one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: weismanm</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5434</link>
		<dc:creator>weismanm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this looks very interesting, and I appreciate everyone&#039;s comments. I am always looking for easy to install and use systems and will try this. nagois, zenoss and BB are a bear to install and configure (at least for me)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Has anyone ever used Big Sister? It&#039;s another BB clone, but quite easy to install and use, not so easy to configure past basic stuff, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this looks very interesting, and I appreciate everyone&#8217;s comments. I am always looking for easy to install and use systems and will try this. nagois, zenoss and BB are a bear to install and configure (at least for me)</p>
<p>Has anyone ever used Big Sister? It&#8217;s another BB clone, but quite easy to install and use, not so easy to configure past basic stuff, though.</p>
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		<title>By: majeska</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5435</link>
		<dc:creator>majeska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hobbit smokes Nagios.  I used Nagios for years and recently switched to Hobbit.  Hobbit comes ready to graph the data it collects and data collected by your own scripts so you can see trends in server and service health over time for capacity planning, diagnosing problems, etc.  It can be done in Nagios but its alot more painful to setup.  I&#039;ve found that Hobbit is capable of doing so much more then Nagios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hobbit smokes Nagios.  I used Nagios for years and recently switched to Hobbit.  Hobbit comes ready to graph the data it collects and data collected by your own scripts so you can see trends in server and service health over time for capacity planning, diagnosing problems, etc.  It can be done in Nagios but its alot more painful to setup.  I&#8217;ve found that Hobbit is capable of doing so much more then Nagios.</p>
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		<title>By: beerse</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5436</link>
		<dc:creator>beerse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nice thing about all these monitoring tools (hobbit, bb, nagios, zabbix) is that they have an agent for _most_ systems. How about the other systems? Do they come with a snmp interface? Is this a self-discovery interface? does it accept mib-files? Because in the end, you like to monitor _all_ systems, even the ones for which there is no agent and the ones that cannot handle an agent, like printers, switches, routers and other attached stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Look at HP with their server-agents: they add entries to snmp which is already available in the os. Then your own snmp-based monitoring can also monitor the HP-special parameters. That&#039;s the way it should be: Use an available standard, then you can get much higher.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And for the microsoft operating systems: wmi is not the standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nice thing about all these monitoring tools (hobbit, bb, nagios, zabbix) is that they have an agent for _most_ systems. How about the other systems? Do they come with a snmp interface? Is this a self-discovery interface? does it accept mib-files? Because in the end, you like to monitor _all_ systems, even the ones for which there is no agent and the ones that cannot handle an agent, like printers, switches, routers and other attached stuff.</p>
<p>Look at HP with their server-agents: they add entries to snmp which is already available in the os. Then your own snmp-based monitoring can also monitor the HP-special parameters. That&#8217;s the way it should be: Use an available standard, then you can get much higher.</p>
<p>And for the microsoft operating systems: wmi is not the standard.</p>
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		<title>By: codemunkee</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5437</link>
		<dc:creator>codemunkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll stick with Nagios and NRPE. Splunk is also awesome if you&#039;re wanting to monitor syslogs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And for Gentoo Admins, like myself, it becomes more clear what to use when you run:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
emerge -s hobbit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
emerge -s nagios</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll stick with Nagios and NRPE. Splunk is also awesome if you&#8217;re wanting to monitor syslogs.</p>
<p>And for Gentoo Admins, like myself, it becomes more clear what to use when you run:</p>
<p>emerge -s hobbit</p>
<p>and </p>
<p>emerge -s nagios</p>
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		<title>By: jjabusch</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5438</link>
		<dc:creator>jjabusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about Zabbix, but I can speak to Nagios and Zenoss.  Nagios is okay for doing simple testing and monitoring / alerting.  However, when establishing SNMP tests, it&#039;s more challenging.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Zenoss, however, was a little easier to setup than Nagios, and its autodiscovery works just fine.  Plus, for devices it doesn&#039;t already know (we use a lot of Nortel equipment) - I just had to acquire the Nortel MIBS, and import them in through a menu option.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nagios has some basic charting abilities plus the ability to dump stats to other tools, although you may have to get creative.  Zenoss will chart just about any stat it captures for you, with little effort.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With that all said, I run both.  Nagios is primarily just an alerting tool, because the stats and the ability to delve deeper into equipment is built into Zenoss, and I&#039;d have to do a lot of scripting to make it work in Nagios.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Plus, Nagios&#039; dashboard-like functionality is still a little ahead of Zenoss&#039; dashboard, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about Zabbix, but I can speak to Nagios and Zenoss.  Nagios is okay for doing simple testing and monitoring / alerting.  However, when establishing SNMP tests, it&#8217;s more challenging.</p>
<p>Zenoss, however, was a little easier to setup than Nagios, and its autodiscovery works just fine.  Plus, for devices it doesn&#8217;t already know (we use a lot of Nortel equipment) &#8211; I just had to acquire the Nortel MIBS, and import them in through a menu option.</p>
<p>Nagios has some basic charting abilities plus the ability to dump stats to other tools, although you may have to get creative.  Zenoss will chart just about any stat it captures for you, with little effort.</p>
<p>With that all said, I run both.  Nagios is primarily just an alerting tool, because the stats and the ability to delve deeper into equipment is built into Zenoss, and I&#8217;d have to do a lot of scripting to make it work in Nagios.</p>
<p>Plus, Nagios&#8217; dashboard-like functionality is still a little ahead of Zenoss&#8217; dashboard, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: ashusethi</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6138/#comment-5439</link>
		<dc:creator>ashusethi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find Nagios is a better one though, had extensively used it, specially there is alot of development of supporting applications going on.. as one i remeber was a desktop alert client for windows, it used to show a pop up on my windows host that something is wrong with some server. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Zabbix may be another good bet with a filtered GUI.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cheers&lt;br /&gt;
ash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find Nagios is a better one though, had extensively used it, specially there is alot of development of supporting applications going on.. as one i remeber was a desktop alert client for windows, it used to show a pop up on my windows host that something is wrong with some server. </p>
<p>Zabbix may be another good bet with a filtered GUI.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
ash</p>
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