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		<title>by: Prentice Bisbal</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My original comment was cut-off due to a typo. Here's the whole thing. 

Doug, I agree with everything you say, except this:

&lt;blockquote cite="Douglas Eadline"&gt; 
Buy a turn-key system and start working right away. This option is usually the most expensive in terms of initial cost, but you are guaranteed a working system."
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's only true if the cluster vendor sets it up the way YOU want. I've seen a few clusters where the cluster vendors sets things up the way THEY want, so you get a working system, but it doesn't work they way you need it to. 

Just the other day, I was working on a cluster from a well-respected Linux Cluster vendor, and I found a facet of the configuration from the vendor that I found to be ridiculous for a cluster, and it was causing problems. In other words, it wasn't working. I couldn't fix it, b/c that would mean taking the cluster off-line, and would (probably) break plenty of other things. In the end, the user had to work around this problem. 

So we paid for turnkey system from a true cluster vendor and it still didn't work correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My original comment was cut-off due to a typo. Here&#8217;s the whole thing. </p>
<p>Doug, I agree with everything you say, except this:</p>
<blockquote cite="Douglas Eadline"><p>
Buy a turn-key system and start working right away. This option is usually the most expensive in terms of initial cost, but you are guaranteed a working system.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s only true if the cluster vendor sets it up the way YOU want. I&#8217;ve seen a few clusters where the cluster vendors sets things up the way THEY want, so you get a working system, but it doesn&#8217;t work they way you need it to. </p>
<p>Just the other day, I was working on a cluster from a well-respected Linux Cluster vendor, and I found a facet of the configuration from the vendor that I found to be ridiculous for a cluster, and it was causing problems. In other words, it wasn&#8217;t working. I couldn&#8217;t fix it, b/c that would mean taking the cluster off-line, and would (probably) break plenty of other things. In the end, the user had to work around this problem. </p>
<p>So we paid for turnkey system from a true cluster vendor and it still didn&#8217;t work correctly.
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		<title>by: Prentice Bisbal</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6195/#comment-1168</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Doug, I agree with everything you say, except this:

&lt;blockquote cite="Douglas Eadline"&gt; 
Buy a turn-key system and start working right away. This option is usually the most expensive in terms of initial cost, but you are guaranteed a working system."
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, I agree with everything you say, except this:</p>
<blockquote cite="Douglas Eadline"><p>
Buy a turn-key system and start working right away. This option is usually the most expensive in terms of initial cost, but you are guaranteed a working system.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
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