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	<title>Comments on: Wine @ Work: Running MS Office and IE on Linux</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Marcin Owsiany</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1533</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Did you try gqview? I find it the best viewer I've ever used, both in Linux and Windows, after you set "Leave zoom at previous setting" in preferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you try gqview? I find it the best viewer I&#8217;ve ever used, both in Linux and Windows, after you set &#8220;Leave zoom at previous setting&#8221; in preferences.
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		<title>by: ben2talk</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1507</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I installed Sun's new Virtualbox 2.0 - and now can seamlessly run MS office 2007, or any other program i want to run in any operating system 'seamlessly' - though it generallly works nicely running full screen in it's own workspace.

With WINE it's more a matter of 'what can I use with this?'

I prefer 'I want to use ACDSee Pro2 because it's better than anything in linux - where's the tool to do that?'

My printer works very nicely with Windows, not with lnux - so Virtualbox handles my backend. There's no point hiding, linux can't match the combination of windows and all the software developers working together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I installed Sun&#8217;s new Virtualbox 2.0 - and now can seamlessly run MS office 2007, or any other program i want to run in any operating system &#8217;seamlessly&#8217; - though it generallly works nicely running full screen in it&#8217;s own workspace.</p>
<p>With WINE it&#8217;s more a matter of &#8216;what can I use with this?&#8217;</p>
<p>I prefer &#8216;I want to use ACDSee Pro2 because it&#8217;s better than anything in linux - where&#8217;s the tool to do that?&#8217;</p>
<p>My printer works very nicely with Windows, not with lnux - so Virtualbox handles my backend. There&#8217;s no point hiding, linux can&#8217;t match the combination of windows and all the software developers working together.
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		<title>by: patrickmoroney</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1470</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I use Debian 2.6.25-2-686 Lenny with WindowMaker, and while Wine to installed, no Wine application was available in my WindowMaker menus.  I tried adding ./usr/bin/wine to a menu, but only winecfg yielded the old style interface... Frustrating..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Debian 2.6.25-2-686 Lenny with WindowMaker, and while Wine to installed, no Wine application was available in my WindowMaker menus.  I tried adding ./usr/bin/wine to a menu, but only winecfg yielded the old style interface&#8230; Frustrating..
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		<title>by: Ken Hess</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1429</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, the main point of Wine for me in the article is to install familiar apps for people who are converting to Linux. It's sometimes hard to leave the old stuff behind. Believe me, when I converted people off of WordStar and WordPerfect to MS Word, it was the same thing. People use what they're comfortable with--this is why we need apps that are similar enough to gather support and adoption. OO.o and FireFox are similar enough for conversion.

You wouldn't believe, though, how many times I had to hear "But in WordPerfect, we could do X." Yeah? Really? Get over it. You're boss says to use Word. It will have to be the same with OO.o, Linux, or any app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the main point of Wine for me in the article is to install familiar apps for people who are converting to Linux. It&#8217;s sometimes hard to leave the old stuff behind. Believe me, when I converted people off of WordStar and WordPerfect to MS Word, it was the same thing. People use what they&#8217;re comfortable with&#8211;this is why we need apps that are similar enough to gather support and adoption. OO.o and FireFox are similar enough for conversion.</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t believe, though, how many times I had to hear &#8220;But in WordPerfect, we could do X.&#8221; Yeah? Really? Get over it. You&#8217;re boss says to use Word. It will have to be the same with OO.o, Linux, or any app.
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		<title>by: dvainsencher</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1415</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1415</guid>
					<description>Do you code in Office 2007?
Sorry, but my experience shows exactly the opposite. I became more productive in Linux and I could learn much more with the thousands of great tools, languages, etc, and with the collaborative and knowledge oriented culture that follows open source world. Believe me. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you code in Office 2007?<br />
Sorry, but my experience shows exactly the opposite. I became more productive in Linux and I could learn much more with the thousands of great tools, languages, etc, and with the collaborative and knowledge oriented culture that follows open source world. Believe me. ;-)
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		<title>by: slalji</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1411</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have a windows app called OpenBugs. I would like it to run using jobs, therefore would require wine to work without its graphical user interface. Is there a way to set wine to be command based only?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a windows app called OpenBugs. I would like it to run using jobs, therefore would require wine to work without its graphical user interface. Is there a way to set wine to be command based only?
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		<title>by: mikemeek</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1407</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If it's scope is to run every Windows program ever written, then Wine's mission rings of Dan Akroyd's 'Every Record Ever Recorded' sales pitch on Saturday Night Live.  Guys, even the OS for which the programs were INTENDED doesn't properly run every application.

On the other hand, Wine is a perfect fit for organizations that are willing to switch office and email suites, but have an application or two written for M$ that are must-haves (ours is a document imaging package).  Wine is a viable alternative to a second box or VM solution to run such applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s scope is to run every Windows program ever written, then Wine&#8217;s mission rings of Dan Akroyd&#8217;s &#8216;Every Record Ever Recorded&#8217; sales pitch on Saturday Night Live.  Guys, even the OS for which the programs were INTENDED doesn&#8217;t properly run every application.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Wine is a perfect fit for organizations that are willing to switch office and email suites, but have an application or two written for M$ that are must-haves (ours is a document imaging package).  Wine is a viable alternative to a second box or VM solution to run such applications.
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		<title>by: chas_martel</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1395</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Some of us have to work with other people around the world
and Excel is the only game in town.  Have you ever
created a "complex" spreadsheet that works in Excel
AND Calc? They are not compatible and 99.99999% of the
world uses Excel, so there you have it, there is 
no choice.  MS wins in the de facto sense of the word win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of us have to work with other people around the world<br />
and Excel is the only game in town.  Have you ever<br />
created a &#8220;complex&#8221; spreadsheet that works in Excel<br />
AND Calc? They are not compatible and 99.99999% of the<br />
world uses Excel, so there you have it, there is<br />
no choice.  MS wins in the de facto sense of the word win.
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		<title>by: achusxmachina</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1386</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am very happy to see wine supporting loads of M$ apps. Personally I use it to run Corel Draw which runs perfectly. There are a few apps linux does not have a proper replacement for:
- DTP Software: Scribus is fine but it has some drawbacks in usability
- Visio: Kivio and OODraw are nowhere near as powerful
A huge Problem with running MS Office is that you do not get any updates. the MS update tool with its activex applet and Genuine Advantage blabla will never run on linux. That will never make it into enterprise deployments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very happy to see wine supporting loads of M$ apps. Personally I use it to run Corel Draw which runs perfectly. There are a few apps linux does not have a proper replacement for:<br />
- DTP Software: Scribus is fine but it has some drawbacks in usability<br />
- Visio: Kivio and OODraw are nowhere near as powerful<br />
A huge Problem with running MS Office is that you do not get any updates. the MS update tool with its activex applet and Genuine Advantage blabla will never run on linux. That will never make it into enterprise deployments
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		<title>by: munguia.carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6539/#comment-1384</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sometimes  in the enterprice and for some intranet websites  is necesary run IE  and Win-Office , Wine is a great tool , I prefered  firefox  and oOo , but for compatibility is  necesary propietary appliction and wine is my prefered tool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes  in the enterprice and for some intranet websites  is necesary run IE  and Win-Office , Wine is a great tool , I prefered  firefox  and oOo , but for compatibility is  necesary propietary appliction and wine is my prefered tool
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