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	<title>Comments on: Evolution: A New Outlook for Linux</title>
	<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: oouc</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-2466</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>An article should enable users to do something not just brag about theories or things which the author claims are possible.  I searched for "mult" in order to find out how to set up multiple accounts.  All I got was this nonhelpful PR.

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Microsoft Exchange and Novell GroupWise Support and Multiple Account Management
Support for Exchange and GroupWise is built-in to Evolution providing all options and behaviors expected from a commercial and proprietary email client. 
[End Quote]

After writing this I was confronted with the ambiguous button
[Add comment] instead of [Submit comment]

The main advantage commercial sw has over FLOSS is that the big companies paid me and people like me for our opinions and scientific research concerning user friendliness and they listened and corrected  to those opinions or research.  But so many FLOSS developers instead argue with experts who try to be helpful instead of listening to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An article should enable users to do something not just brag about theories or things which the author claims are possible.  I searched for &#8220;mult&#8221; in order to find out how to set up multiple accounts.  All I got was this nonhelpful PR.</p>
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Microsoft Exchange and Novell GroupWise Support and Multiple Account Management<br />
Support for Exchange and GroupWise is built-in to Evolution providing all options and behaviors expected from a commercial and proprietary email client.<br />
[End Quote]</p>
<p>After writing this I was confronted with the ambiguous button<br />
[Add comment] instead of [Submit comment]</p>
<p>The main advantage commercial sw has over FLOSS is that the big companies paid me and people like me for our opinions and scientific research concerning user friendliness and they listened and corrected  to those opinions or research.  But so many FLOSS developers instead argue with experts who try to be helpful instead of listening to them.
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		<title>by: dbmethods</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1964</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1964</guid>
					<description>I am doing a study on text search for BLOB Text data type on MySQL.
Any idea to extract Evolution raw data and import that to MySQL database.

1) I found these files, need a data extraction program.
user@ubuntu:~/.evolution/mail/local$ ls Sent*
Sent  Sent.cmeta  Sent.ibex.index  Sent.ibex.index.data

2) Is there a way copy over Windows Outlook .pst files to Ubuntu box and import them to Evolution mail?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am doing a study on text search for BLOB Text data type on MySQL.<br />
Any idea to extract Evolution raw data and import that to MySQL database.</p>
<p>1) I found these files, need a data extraction program.<br />
<a href="mailto:user@ubuntu:~/.evolution/mail/local$">user@ubuntu:~/.evolution/mail/local$</a> ls Sent*<br />
Sent  Sent.cmeta  Sent.ibex.index  Sent.ibex.index.data</p>
<p>2) Is there a way copy over Windows Outlook .pst files to Ubuntu box and import them to Evolution mail?</p>
<p>Thanks
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		<title>by: jtheriot</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1776</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1776</guid>
					<description>I just hooked Evo up to our Exchange server today.  I'm pleased with the performance.  One thing that Evo did that Outlook '07 didn't was that when you began typing a name in the To: field that you didn't use before, it listed all matches in the GAL.

I've been using GnuPG with Evo with my normal imap and pop accounts without a hitch.

Evo may lock up.  I've locked it up a couple of times by changing preferences while it was sending/receiving.  The nice thing is that if it locks up, you open a terminal, type 
&lt;code&gt;ps ax &#124; grep evolution
kill ##### (the number of the jobs that appear)&lt;/code&gt; and reload evolution.  If Outlook locks up, you reboot the whole machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hooked Evo up to our Exchange server today.  I&#8217;m pleased with the performance.  One thing that Evo did that Outlook &#8216;07 didn&#8217;t was that when you began typing a name in the To: field that you didn&#8217;t use before, it listed all matches in the GAL.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using GnuPG with Evo with my normal imap and pop accounts without a hitch.</p>
<p>Evo may lock up.  I&#8217;ve locked it up a couple of times by changing preferences while it was sending/receiving.  The nice thing is that if it locks up, you open a terminal, type<br />
<code>ps ax | grep evolution<br />
kill ##### (the number of the jobs that appear)</code> and reload evolution.  If Outlook locks up, you reboot the whole machine.
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		<title>by: vwbond</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1726</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1726</guid>
					<description>I good piece of software that should be worked continuously worked on. In order to work with exchange 07. I've found it to be stable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I good piece of software that should be worked continuously worked on. In order to work with exchange 07. I&#8217;ve found it to be stable.
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		<title>by: Rupert Kolb</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1723</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1723</guid>
					<description>I tried it with openSUSE 11.0 (and nearly every older SuSE/Novell version):
It is not stable enough!
And I was not able using evolution to import/copy emails (2.5G in size) from a mbox to groupwise. 
Seamonkey did the job, uncomplaining: simply setup one account for the mbox, an other for groupwise (using the groupwise imap server) and copy the mails from one to the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried it with openSUSE 11.0 (and nearly every older SuSE/Novell version):<br />
It is not stable enough!<br />
And I was not able using evolution to import/copy emails (2.5G in size) from a mbox to groupwise.<br />
Seamonkey did the job, uncomplaining: simply setup one account for the mbox, an other for groupwise (using the groupwise imap server) and copy the mails from one to the other.
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		<title>by: ebo thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1705</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1705</guid>
					<description>i used it on OpenSuse 11.0, Sabayon 3.4 and Ubuntu. it was too eratic for my liking and kept crashing. it doesn't support exchange 2007. if it did, i could live with nursing it along but as it stands, too buggy to keep open all day long</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i used it on OpenSuse 11.0, Sabayon 3.4 and Ubuntu. it was too eratic for my liking and kept crashing. it doesn&#8217;t support exchange 2007. if it did, i could live with nursing it along but as it stands, too buggy to keep open all day long
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		<title>by: richarson</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1683</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1683</guid>
					<description>@mahasamoot: I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean by 'archiving' but maybe this will help you: kmail has a very nice feature, which is single-key shortcuts.

For example: n to compose a new email, f to forward an email, etc, and also m to move and c to copy an email or group of emails. By pressing one ofr those two letters, a hierarchy of folders shows up to select where to move/copy the email(s). That window filters as you type, so you can quickly find the destination folder.

I have a notebook and I hate touchpads. I recently found those two shortcuts that made my life so much easier :)

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mahasamoot: I&#8217;m not sure I fully understand what you mean by &#8216;archiving&#8217; but maybe this will help you: kmail has a very nice feature, which is single-key shortcuts.</p>
<p>For example: n to compose a new email, f to forward an email, etc, and also m to move and c to copy an email or group of emails. By pressing one ofr those two letters, a hierarchy of folders shows up to select where to move/copy the email(s). That window filters as you type, so you can quickly find the destination folder.</p>
<p>I have a notebook and I hate touchpads. I recently found those two shortcuts that made my life so much easier :)</p>
<p>Cheers,
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		<title>by: Frank Deutschmann</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1681</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1681</guid>
					<description>It's funny: in the early years, 'Open Source' projects (e.g.: Emacs, Linux, gcc) really did offer substantial qualitative and quantitative advantages versus their closed-source cousins; these projects/tools were cutting edge and often responsible for introducing totally new concepts into the zeitgeist.

Now we come to Evolution (ironic, that!) which seems to be struggling vainly to just meet the lowest level of the bar set by a commercial offering from the software development institution that everyone loves to hate.  Even the (pretty bad) UI and UI functionality is copied sans improvement -- in fact, with reduced functionality.  (What would be the fate of another closed-source entity that attempted this?!)

Anyway, this state of affairs seems mighty sad and disappointing -- but of course, the bigger question is, does this reflect on just this project, or the principle of 'Open Source' in general...?
-frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny: in the early years, &#8216;Open Source&#8217; projects (e.g.: Emacs, Linux, gcc) really did offer substantial qualitative and quantitative advantages versus their closed-source cousins; these projects/tools were cutting edge and often responsible for introducing totally new concepts into the zeitgeist.</p>
<p>Now we come to Evolution (ironic, that!) which seems to be struggling vainly to just meet the lowest level of the bar set by a commercial offering from the software development institution that everyone loves to hate.  Even the (pretty bad) UI and UI functionality is copied sans improvement &#8212; in fact, with reduced functionality.  (What would be the fate of another closed-source entity that attempted this?!)</p>
<p>Anyway, this state of affairs seems mighty sad and disappointing &#8212; but of course, the bigger question is, does this reflect on just this project, or the principle of &#8216;Open Source&#8217; in general&#8230;?<br />
-frank
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		<title>by: Edson Flávio de Souza</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1679</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1679</guid>
					<description>Don't save mail in maildir format is the big problem on evolution. Kmail is fast and save mail in maildir format. I have mailbox greater than 5 GB and I have no problem for manipulation of this mailbox.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t save mail in maildir format is the big problem on evolution. Kmail is fast and save mail in maildir format. I have mailbox greater than 5 GB and I have no problem for manipulation of this mailbox.</p>
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		<title>by: Neil Padgett</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1677</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7170/#comment-1677</guid>
					<description>I've tried using Evolution on Ubuntu, but I find it (Evolution) too slow.  When using IMAP, Thunderbird is far quicker at displaying messages - in my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried using Evolution on Ubuntu, but I find it (Evolution) too slow.  When using IMAP, Thunderbird is far quicker at displaying messages - in my experience.
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