Comments on: Desktop Virtualization Revisited Part One: Sun’s xVM VirtualBox http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/ Open Source, Open Standards Sat, 05 Oct 2013 13:48:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: djones666 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6244 djones666 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6244 Strange - I'm running xVM on Solaris to type this, so where does the statement "but not on Solaris" come from? I believe the author might have meant not on SPARC. Strange – I’m running xVM on Solaris to type this, so where does the statement “but not on Solaris” come from? I believe the author might have meant not on SPARC.

]]> By: ammaro http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6245 ammaro Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6245 can i install Xen on windowsxp_sp2 or win_server2003 can i install Xen on windowsxp_sp2 or win_server2003

]]> By: khess http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6246 khess Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6246 @djones666:<br /> Yes, on Sparc. Sorry. Cool graphic by the way, how did you make that?<br /> <br /> @ammaro:<br /> Yes. You can install just about anything in xVM. @djones666:
Yes, on Sparc. Sorry. Cool graphic by the way, how did you make that?

@ammaro:
Yes. You can install just about anything in xVM.

]]> By: ron@mideiros.net http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6247 ron@mideiros.net Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6247 I use VirtualBox on openSUSE 10.3 with an XP guest OS. Works perfectly, and the install was painless. I use it for my two <i>'have to have'</i> Windows applications ( Quicken & TurboTax ). VirtualBox is a great product if your are just wanting a desktop VM, which I think is what most folks are looking for - and its free! I use VirtualBox on openSUSE 10.3 with an XP guest OS. Works perfectly, and the install was painless. I use it for my two ‘have to have’ Windows applications ( Quicken & TurboTax ). VirtualBox is a great product if your are just wanting a desktop VM, which I think is what most folks are looking for – and its free!

]]> By: hugolia http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6248 hugolia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6248 I've tried xVM on Linux and found it not easy to install, specially the network setup. Ii is not "Tricky Network Setup", I found it quite difficult, specially for non technical people.<br /> I finally installed VMware Server it is also free, got no "tricky setup", and can be easily setup and administrated.<br /> So I think that xVM is not an alternative of choice for Linux.<br /> <br /> I still have to try XEN and QEMU. Can you write a review of these?<br /> <br /> Hugo I’ve tried xVM on Linux and found it not easy to install, specially the network setup. Ii is not “Tricky Network Setup”, I found it quite difficult, specially for non technical people.
I finally installed VMware Server it is also free, got no “tricky setup”, and can be easily setup and administrated.
So I think that xVM is not an alternative of choice for Linux.

I still have to try XEN and QEMU. Can you write a review of these?

Hugo

]]> By: dragonwisard http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6249 dragonwisard Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6249 It's misleading to say Solaris is not supported when it clearly is.<br /> <br /> Obviously Solaris Sparc won't work because VirtualBox doesn't emulate the CPU like QEMU or Bochs. <br /> <br /> PPC Macs won't run VirtualBox for the same reason but you neglected to mention that... <br /> <br /> Please correct your article. It’s misleading to say Solaris is not supported when it clearly is.

Obviously Solaris Sparc won’t work because VirtualBox doesn’t emulate the CPU like QEMU or Bochs.

PPC Macs won’t run VirtualBox for the same reason but you neglected to mention that…

Please correct your article.

]]> By: jsteiner http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6250 jsteiner Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6250 Xen is different. It's a bare metal hypervisor. That is Xen in a sense is the OS that you build VM's on. It's Linux based. VM products like VBox sit on a fully function host OS. The vm's are guests on the host. Xen is not for the faint of heart or hobbyist. It's more for the enterprise class server to host multiple virtual servers. Xen is owned by Citrix now. Go to the Citrix page to read more and give it a go. Xen is different. It’s a bare metal hypervisor. That is Xen in a sense is the OS that you build VM’s on. It’s Linux based. VM products like VBox sit on a fully function host OS. The vm’s are guests on the host. Xen is not for the faint of heart or hobbyist. It’s more for the enterprise class server to host multiple virtual servers. Xen is owned by Citrix now. Go to the Citrix page to read more and give it a go.

]]> By: angadsingh http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6251 angadsingh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6251 There's a wrong information in this article: VirtualBox DOES run on Solaris! :) There’s a wrong information in this article: VirtualBox DOES run on Solaris! :)

]]> By: cathbard http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6252 cathbard Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6252 I found it really easy to install and setup on linux actually (debian and ubuntu). I just added the repo and installed it with apt. Getting it to capture the mouse took a bit of googling but everything else was a snap. I found it really easy to install and setup on linux actually (debian and ubuntu). I just added the repo and installed it with apt. Getting it to capture the mouse took a bit of googling but everything else was a snap.

]]> By: littlemonkeymojo http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6253 littlemonkeymojo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6253 Does VirtualBox yet support USB connections? (in the OSS version) Does VirtualBox yet support USB connections? (in the OSS version)

]]> By: curtiscu http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6254 curtiscu Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6254 Hmmm .. I like this site, and get the daily updates. virtualization is my speciality so this caught my eye and I clicked the email link to read it.<br /> <br /> I got as far as this: "I’m trying to eat lunch (and keep it down) while writing this so I can’t discuss anything Mac."<br /> <br /> That kind of comment smacks of lack of professionalism, and bias against any OS *particularly* in an article about cross platform virtualization is totally out of place.<br /> <br /> Perhaps it was my fault for expecting a higher standard? Regardless, you've helped reset my expectations to the correct level - I know that this is a site not to be taken that seriously. Hmmm .. I like this site, and get the daily updates. virtualization is my speciality so this caught my eye and I clicked the email link to read it.

I got as far as this: “I’m trying to eat lunch (and keep it down) while writing this so I can’t discuss anything Mac.”

That kind of comment smacks of lack of professionalism, and bias against any OS *particularly* in an article about cross platform virtualization is totally out of place.

Perhaps it was my fault for expecting a higher standard? Regardless, you’ve helped reset my expectations to the correct level – I know that this is a site not to be taken that seriously.

]]> By: davemguru12 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6255 davemguru12 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6255 Couldn't agree more. About a year ago this was an "ok" publication.<br /> It's continued on a downward spiral with articles that are 2 or 3 years old being re-published as new. Crass comments such as khess asserts in his article coupled with obviously biased, prejudiced and out-dated opinions.<br /> <br /> It seems such a shame that the editors can't be bothered to check the copy before releasing it to the public. There's about as much integrity in this publication as there is in "Hello","OK" or "FHM". (Articles by Maddog excepted)<br /> <br /> I'm fed up with it and shall terminate my subscription forthwith. Couldn’t agree more. About a year ago this was an “ok” publication.
It’s continued on a downward spiral with articles that are 2 or 3 years old being re-published as new. Crass comments such as khess asserts in his article coupled with obviously biased, prejudiced and out-dated opinions.

It seems such a shame that the editors can’t be bothered to check the copy before releasing it to the public. There’s about as much integrity in this publication as there is in “Hello”,”OK” or “FHM”. (Articles by Maddog excepted)

I’m fed up with it and shall terminate my subscription forthwith.

]]> By: hajenius http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6256 hajenius Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6256 Never got linux working in Virtual PC (and even read somewhere that is not possibel at all, but did not bother to much with trying). And to be honest; i fail to understand that you can mention Virtual PC without troubles, but have big issues with Macs - not a fan of either of them - but even so... Never got linux working in Virtual PC (and even read somewhere that is not possibel at all, but did not bother to much with trying). And to be honest; i fail to understand that you can mention Virtual PC without troubles, but have big issues with Macs – not a fan of either of them – but even so…

]]> By: carlopires http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6257 carlopires Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6257 Virtualbox is great! I use it for years with windows and linux guests. Virtualbox is great! I use it for years with windows and linux guests.

]]> By: augier http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6258 augier Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6258 I use VirtualBox on Mac OS X with an XP guest OS. Works perfectly, and the install was painless. I use it for my ‘have to have’ Windows applications. I set it up with Mac OS connected via Wifi to one network and WinXP connected via cable to another network (I work in a school and there is a student network and a professor network). It's great and then I can access all my applications on all networks at the same time!<br /> <br /> BTW, I found it really easy to install and setup on Mac OS X, Windows and Linux actually (debian)! I use VirtualBox on Mac OS X with an XP guest OS. Works perfectly, and the install was painless. I use it for my ‘have to have’ Windows applications. I set it up with Mac OS connected via Wifi to one network and WinXP connected via cable to another network (I work in a school and there is a student network and a professor network). It’s great and then I can access all my applications on all networks at the same time!

BTW, I found it really easy to install and setup on Mac OS X, Windows and Linux actually (debian)!

]]> By: ben1955r http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6259 ben1955r Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6259 Please, lighten up....good grief. Comments like that don't make you sound more "professional", it makes you sound like a bitchy "geek snob". You can do better. Please, lighten up….good grief. Comments like that don’t make you sound more “professional”, it makes you sound like a bitchy “geek snob”. You can do better.

]]> By: bjphealy http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6260 bjphealy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6260 I love VirtualBox. Running on Solaris x86. Don't see lack of SPARC/Solaris support as an issue for Desktop Virtualization. SPARC is a great server architecture, but it's (relatively) slow single threaded performance, and cost, make it a poor desktop choice.<br /> <br /> VBox Rocks! I love VirtualBox. Running on Solaris x86. Don’t see lack of SPARC/Solaris support as an issue for Desktop Virtualization. SPARC is a great server architecture, but it’s (relatively) slow single threaded performance, and cost, make it a poor desktop choice.

VBox Rocks!

]]> By: gmckeown http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6261 gmckeown Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6261 Disadvantages:<br /> <br /> * No Solaris OS Support<br /> * Tricky Network Setup<br /> * Awkward CD Drive Management<br /> * No VM Cross-Compatibility<br /> <br /> <br /> Sorry, not true on these points. This must have been written a year ago, or the research was based on other articles and the author never even tried running VirtualBox.<br /> <br /> No solaris? No so. I have 3 OpenSolaris VMs installed and one XP VM running on an OpenSolaris notebook.<br /> <br /> Tricky Network? It's as easy as can be.<br /> <br /> Awkward CD-Rom? Bahhhh. Hardware CD-Roms, USB, ISOs, whatever. They all work.<br /> <br /> No cross VM? Not true. You can easily convert VMware VMs to xVM and back again - or better yet just load the .vmdk file in vBox - it supports it natively. Disadvantages:

* No Solaris OS Support
* Tricky Network Setup
* Awkward CD Drive Management
* No VM Cross-Compatibility

Sorry, not true on these points. This must have been written a year ago, or the research was based on other articles and the author never even tried running VirtualBox.

No solaris? No so. I have 3 OpenSolaris VMs installed and one XP VM running on an OpenSolaris notebook.

Tricky Network? It’s as easy as can be.

Awkward CD-Rom? Bahhhh. Hardware CD-Roms, USB, ISOs, whatever. They all work.

No cross VM? Not true. You can easily convert VMware VMs to xVM and back again – or better yet just load the .vmdk file in vBox – it supports it natively.

]]> By: khess http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6262 khess Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6262 I don't have a Mac, never had a Mac, will never have a Mac...no need to mention Mac. Sorry. I don’t have a Mac, never had a Mac, will never have a Mac…no need to mention Mac. Sorry.

]]> By: khess http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6263 khess Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7266/#comment-6263 The Mac comments are to be taken a lighthearted humor. Sorry if it offends anyone. You should see some of my rants about the days of the one-button mouse. I am not particularly prejudiced against any one OS, especially now that Mac OS X is a blend of NeXT and FreeBSD. It's actually pretty cool. I take stabs at Mac stuff because Mac people feel that Apple is a religion and it gets them riled-up as you can see here. Just a little fun folks--don't take snarky comments so seriously. The Mac comments are to be taken a lighthearted humor. Sorry if it offends anyone. You should see some of my rants about the days of the one-button mouse. I am not particularly prejudiced against any one OS, especially now that Mac OS X is a blend of NeXT and FreeBSD. It’s actually pretty cool. I take stabs at Mac stuff because Mac people feel that Apple is a religion and it gets them riled-up as you can see here. Just a little fun folks–don’t take snarky comments so seriously.

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