Comments on: GNOME vs. KDE: The Final Smackdown http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/ Open Source, Open Standards Sat, 05 Oct 2013 13:48:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Phoenix http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-109785 Phoenix Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:50:22 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-109785 Using RPM is restricted while battling (Just like pokemon battles XD) Using RPM is restricted while battling
(Just like pokemon battles XD)

]]> By: mgl.branco http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6299 mgl.branco Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6299 I have no other words to qualify the article other than rubish. Sorry. It's full of misconceptions and it's misleading. <br /> <br /> 1. KDE's month actualizations, such as KDE 4.2.x, are intended to be bugfixes ONLY. So, don't compare release cycles this way. <br /> 2. Konqueror has not been discontinued. Dolphin has been introduced as the default file manager, but Konqueror is still there, with no feature lost. Making it the default file manager it's very simple. Btw, I don't see people complainig that much about this.<br /> 3. OpenOffice is totaly unrelated to GNOME. So you can't compare KDE vs GNOME using OOo and KOffice. Gnome has a project called GnomeOffice (Abiword, Evince, Evolution...). That's what should be used to compare to Koffice. <br /> 4. Calling Qt4 unstable and unexperienced... wow! quite an akward statement. Qt4 permits to write fairly complex programs in les that 100 lines; with GTK+, well, some simple thing can become painfull to implement. IMO, Qt4 has more advantages than GTK+.<br /> 5. KDE4 is at least as customizable as GNOME. And, btw, in GNOME there's no way to customize anything (via GUI) because that's the point of GNOME. I have no other words to qualify the article other than rubish. Sorry. It’s full of misconceptions and it’s misleading.

1. KDE’s month actualizations, such as KDE 4.2.x, are intended to be bugfixes ONLY. So, don’t compare release cycles this way.
2. Konqueror has not been discontinued. Dolphin has been introduced as the default file manager, but Konqueror is still there, with no feature lost. Making it the default file manager it’s very simple. Btw, I don’t see people complainig that much about this.
3. OpenOffice is totaly unrelated to GNOME. So you can’t compare KDE vs GNOME using OOo and KOffice. Gnome has a project called GnomeOffice (Abiword, Evince, Evolution…). That’s what should be used to compare to Koffice.
4. Calling Qt4 unstable and unexperienced… wow! quite an akward statement. Qt4 permits to write fairly complex programs in les that 100 lines; with GTK+, well, some simple thing can become painfull to implement. IMO, Qt4 has more advantages than GTK+.
5. KDE4 is at least as customizable as GNOME. And, btw, in GNOME there’s no way to customize anything (via GUI) because that’s the point of GNOME.

]]> By: version7x http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6300 version7x Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6300 What a dissapointing article!<br /> <br /> mgl.branco is dead on about the release cycles.... not to mention putting a higher number on something doesn't mean it's more advanced.<br /> <br /> One of the things I use Gnome for is Evolution. My employer uses exchange and with the even of MAPI... there is only one choice for all of my colaborative email and calendaring needs (albeit bloated and slow).<br /> <br /> While the new release of KDE is definitely much more customizable and far nicer to look at there is a much bigger learning curve - which may hinder newcomers.<br /> <br /> If I could have KDE's looks and customization, GNOME's functionality, and XFCE's speed and ease of use... Then I'd be one happy camper! What a dissapointing article!

mgl.branco is dead on about the release cycles…. not to mention putting a higher number on something doesn’t mean it’s more advanced.

One of the things I use Gnome for is Evolution. My employer uses exchange and with the even of MAPI… there is only one choice for all of my colaborative email and calendaring needs (albeit bloated and slow).

While the new release of KDE is definitely much more customizable and far nicer to look at there is a much bigger learning curve – which may hinder newcomers.

If I could have KDE’s looks and customization, GNOME’s functionality, and XFCE’s speed and ease of use… Then I’d be one happy camper!

]]> By: heiden98 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6301 heiden98 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6301 Quark! Who has time for this? Quark! Who has time for this?

]]> By: sbesch http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6302 sbesch Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6302 Does nobody get it? Is the function of satire truly dead? Has no one out there read Jonathan Swift? Can the battling hordes of fanboys truly not see when they are being mocked? Who cares: KDE or Gnome - it's all PP. That's right folks PP, Personal Preference! <br /> <br /> Personally, I found the article delightful - free the world from meaningless argument. Satire forever! Does nobody get it? Is the function of satire truly dead? Has no one out there read Jonathan Swift? Can the battling hordes of fanboys truly not see when they are being mocked? Who cares: KDE or Gnome – it’s all PP. That’s right folks PP, Personal Preference!

Personally, I found the article delightful – free the world from meaningless argument. Satire forever!

]]> By: khess http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6303 khess Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6303 @sbesch<br /> <br /> Thanks for getting it. @sbesch

Thanks for getting it.

]]> By: didiergm http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6304 didiergm Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6304 I could not agree more with sbesch! I think the other posters missed the point. eh Fanboys, have a beer, a coke, a glass of water, whatever makes you tick and relax! Knome or Gde who really cares ? Would you rather have a close-source, no choice OS there is already one, but the name evades me :) I could not agree more with sbesch! I think the other posters missed the point. eh Fanboys, have a beer, a coke, a glass of water, whatever makes you tick and relax! Knome or Gde who really cares ? Would you rather have a close-source, no choice OS there is already one, but the name evades me :)

]]> By: hhemken http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6305 hhemken Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6305 Both mgl.branco and sbesch have good points. I'll take Judge Lintor Usvalds' approach and call it a tie. <br /> <br /> I often switch between KDE and Gnome just to relieve the boredom. The fact is that most KDE apps work fine in Gnome and vice versa. I very much enjoy having the choice and the enormous configurability of GNU/Linux desktop environments in general. <br /> <br /> And let's not forget xfce, that venerable resuscitator of dead PCs! It's light, simple, and highly functional. Beat that, MS or Apple! Both mgl.branco and sbesch have good points. I’ll take Judge Lintor Usvalds’ approach and call it a tie.

I often switch between KDE and Gnome just to relieve the boredom. The fact is that most KDE apps work fine in Gnome and vice versa. I very much enjoy having the choice and the enormous configurability of GNU/Linux desktop environments in general.

And let’s not forget xfce, that venerable resuscitator of dead PCs! It’s light, simple, and highly functional. Beat that, MS or Apple!

]]> By: eclipse1567 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6306 eclipse1567 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6306 My goodness, what a tedious article. 1% useful information, and 99% superfluous fluff. My goodness, what a tedious article. 1% useful information, and 99% superfluous fluff.

]]> By: epretorious http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6307 epretorious Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6307 Hilarious! Thanks for an entertaining and lively satire of the Desktop Wars, Ken! Hilarious! Thanks for an entertaining and lively satire of the Desktop Wars, Ken!

]]> By: cathbard http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6308 cathbard Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6308 But while the two behemoths slug it out and get muscle-bound and slow around the corner comes the lean and speedy LXDE with it's truly freedesktop compliant openbox foundation and streaks ahead. And everybody suddenly realises that it wasn't a fight after all. <br /> XFCE just sits there laughing and hands out free cups of choice like it always has and Fluxbox takes a sip while wondering why some people think there will one day be only one type of desktop. <br /> Enlightenment is too busy looking good and chatting up the girls to even notice there was a fight. But while the two behemoths slug it out and get muscle-bound and slow around the corner comes the lean and speedy LXDE with it’s truly freedesktop compliant openbox foundation and streaks ahead. And everybody suddenly realises that it wasn’t a fight after all.
XFCE just sits there laughing and hands out free cups of choice like it always has and Fluxbox takes a sip while wondering why some people think there will one day be only one type of desktop.
Enlightenment is too busy looking good and chatting up the girls to even notice there was a fight.

]]> By: januaryweiner http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6309 januaryweiner Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6309 This was a GREAT satire, matching only the best! I'm so happy that you have decided to drag one humorous idea for three pages. Seriously! Also, very innovative -- avoiding any further attempts on humour or pun throughout the whole thing. Reminds me of a friend who used to tell jokes with a perfectly straight face, and always missed the punch line, too. Oh, how we used to laugh at him!<br /> <br /> I read the article just after watching Bob the Builder with my three year old son, and I can really attest: you guys are almost funnier!<br /> <br /> ...<br /> <br /> Better luck next time.<br /> <br /> j. This was a GREAT satire, matching only the best! I’m so happy that you have decided to drag one humorous idea for three pages. Seriously! Also, very innovative — avoiding any further attempts on humour or pun throughout the whole thing. Reminds me of a friend who used to tell jokes with a perfectly straight face, and always missed the punch line, too. Oh, how we used to laugh at him!

I read the article just after watching Bob the Builder with my three year old son, and I can really attest: you guys are almost funnier!

…

Better luck next time.

j.

]]> By: januaryweiner http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6310 januaryweiner Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6310 <blockquote><br /> I often switch between KDE and Gnome just to relieve the boredom. <br /> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Let me get this straight... your idea of making your life more interesting is <i>switching back and forth between GNOME and KDE</i>?<br /> <br /> Yep, that sort of sums it up. <br /> <br /> j.

I often switch between KDE and Gnome just to relieve the boredom.

Let me get this straight… your idea of making your life more interesting is switching back and forth between GNOME and KDE?

Yep, that sort of sums it up.

j.

]]> By: srosen http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6311 srosen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6311 Good article. I'm still laughing.<br /> This is one of the best things I've read on here or anywhere. Keep it coming. Good article. I’m still laughing.
This is one of the best things I’ve read on here or anywhere. Keep it coming.

]]> By: bcspratt http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6312 bcspratt Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6312 Thanks you for the article comparing KDE and Gnome. Being a KDE 3.5 user it was good to hear a bit more about Gnome. KDE 4 still has some kinks to work out before I upgrade but I expect they will come. I was also disappointed that Konqueror was set aside as the default file manager in favor of Dolphin. I don't care if it's more bloated, it is an excellent file manager and I quickly change the default back to Konqueror on every install I do.<br /> In the end KDE needs Gnome and Gnome needs KDE. If one desktop manager disappeared the "winmer" would soon fall into complacency (like Microsoft) leading to stagnation. A little competition is a good thing and if there be passionate users then that just means that they will be working all the harder to keep their favorite lean and mean. Thanks you for the article comparing KDE and Gnome. Being a KDE 3.5 user it was good to hear a bit more about Gnome. KDE 4 still has some kinks to work out before I upgrade but I expect they will come. I was also disappointed that Konqueror was set aside as the default file manager in favor of Dolphin. I don’t care if it’s more bloated, it is an excellent file manager and I quickly change the default back to Konqueror on every install I do.
In the end KDE needs Gnome and Gnome needs KDE. If one desktop manager disappeared the “winmer” would soon fall into complacency (like Microsoft) leading to stagnation. A little competition is a good thing and if there be passionate users then that just means that they will be working all the harder to keep their favorite lean and mean.

]]> By: tract http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6313 tract Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6313 Terribly written, very disappointing style. Terribly written, very disappointing style.

]]> By: gerhardusmuller1 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6314 gerhardusmuller1 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6314 Please don't waste your readers time like this or consider them to be idiots! Please don’t waste your readers time like this or consider them to be idiots!

]]> By: firozb http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6315 firozb Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6315 Very funny indeed. I wish more articles were written this way. As long as they are factually correct, I don't see anything wrong with this style of writing. Makes one actually enjoy reading technical articles which can often be very boring to read. Very funny indeed. I wish more articles were written this way. As long as they are factually correct, I don’t see anything wrong with this style of writing. Makes one actually enjoy reading technical articles which can often be very boring to read.

]]> By: thepromotiongroup http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6316 thepromotiongroup Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6316 Have to agree, this article was a nice read. Seconds up .. final round! Have to agree, this article was a nice read. Seconds up .. final round!

]]> By: gigo6000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6317 gigo6000 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7296/#comment-6317 Really nice article I saw the draw coming, or some fanboys may throw chairs to linux-mag.. thanks Really nice article I saw the draw coming, or some fanboys may throw chairs to linux-mag.. thanks

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