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]]> By: dford http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6637 dford Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6637 <p>Very interesting article - thank you<br /> David </p> Very interesting article – thank you
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]]> By: biglinuxguy http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6638 biglinuxguy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6638 <p>Nice article, but it brings up one of the issues with software development these days, i.e., the unwillingness to learn new tools or languages. While I understand that people become comfortable with a language or development environment, it\'s a sad state of affairs that they\'ll spend more time porting and munging things so that they don\'t have to learn a new language or toolchain than it would take to learn the language or toolchain. That being said, I guess some folks just have a lot of time on their hands to fiddle around with that sort of thing. </p> Nice article, but it brings up one of the issues with software development these days, i.e., the unwillingness to learn new tools or languages. While I understand that people become comfortable with a language or development environment, it\’s a sad state of affairs that they\’ll spend more time porting and munging things so that they don\’t have to learn a new language or toolchain than it would take to learn the language or toolchain. That being said, I guess some folks just have a lot of time on their hands to fiddle around with that sort of thing.

]]> By: fableson http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6639 fableson Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6639 <p>Good point, biglinuxguy. I just thought the project was clever and the idea of write once, publish multiple places is very appealing. You see this with ports of games for PC, game consoles, etc. I have never done anything in that world, but I have assumed it is always at the source level. Source level portability and mobile development just don\'t fit on the same page -- so this is really a novel (?) approach to translate the byte codes. What makes this a tough sell is the effort involved in porting the native libraries into compatible apis. Android (presentl) is probably lower hanging fruit than iPhone (Cocoa Touch).</p> <p>I personally love learning new platforms - its probably more a pathology than anything else on my part. The second project is always fun - the first is just pure pain.</p> <p>Thanks for your comments. </p> Good point, biglinuxguy. I just thought the project was clever and the idea of write once, publish multiple places is very appealing. You see this with ports of games for PC, game consoles, etc. I have never done anything in that world, but I have assumed it is always at the source level. Source level portability and mobile development just don\’t fit on the same page — so this is really a novel (?) approach to translate the byte codes. What makes this a tough sell is the effort involved in porting the native libraries into compatible apis. Android (presentl) is probably lower hanging fruit than iPhone (Cocoa Touch).

I personally love learning new platforms – its probably more a pathology than anything else on my part. The second project is always fun – the first is just pure pain.

Thanks for your comments.

]]> By: curtiscu http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6640 curtiscu Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6640 <p>@biglinuxguy: \"it\'s a sad state of affairs that they\'ll spend more time porting and munging things so that they don\'t have to learn a new language or toolchain than it would take to learn the language or toolchain\"</p> <p>errrr, Java? </p> @biglinuxguy: \”it\’s a sad state of affairs that they\’ll spend more time porting and munging things so that they don\’t have to learn a new language or toolchain than it would take to learn the language or toolchain\”

errrr, Java?

]]> By: softweyr http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6641 softweyr Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6641 <blockquote><p> @curtiscu: errrr, Java? </p></blockquote> <p>Nice for the platforms Java runs on, useless for platforms that don\'t support Java. Yes, Apple should have a JVM of some sort on the iPhone, and Java class libraries for the iPhone interfaces, but they don\'t. Ditto for Palm, Windows Mobile, etc. </p> <p>One of the reasons Android is such a revolution is because the Android SDK just works, and runs on just about anything. Xcode for the iPhone isn\'t a barrier for me, since I have 2 more Macs that people in my household, but it\'s a lot easier to find programmers that know Java, or want to know Java, than Objective-C. Amazing as the App Store is, imagine how much more they would have if Apple lowered the barrier to entry another step or two. </p>

@curtiscu: errrr, Java?

Nice for the platforms Java runs on, useless for platforms that don\’t support Java. Yes, Apple should have a JVM of some sort on the iPhone, and Java class libraries for the iPhone interfaces, but they don\’t. Ditto for Palm, Windows Mobile, etc.

One of the reasons Android is such a revolution is because the Android SDK just works, and runs on just about anything. Xcode for the iPhone isn\’t a barrier for me, since I have 2 more Macs that people in my household, but it\’s a lot easier to find programmers that know Java, or want to know Java, than Objective-C. Amazing as the App Store is, imagine how much more they would have if Apple lowered the barrier to entry another step or two.

]]> By: jameskoch http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6642 jameskoch Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6642 <p>Don\'t like Java? See the PhoneGap project; HTML, JavaScript, and CSS. Similar goals; alternate technology choice. </p> Don\’t like Java? See the PhoneGap project; HTML, JavaScript, and CSS. Similar goals; alternate technology choice.

]]> By: jillemash http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6643 jillemash Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7408/#comment-6643 <p>With iSpectrum, you get access to a complete set of iPhone APIs in Java : UIKit, CoreLocation,...<br /> You can not only develop in Eclipse but also debug your app in it, while launching the iPhone SDK simulator. It\'s super easy to port your pre existing java code to iPhone (e.g. MIDlets).<br /> Plus iSpectrum is free for open source project.<br /> -> http://www.flexycore.com </p> With iSpectrum, you get access to a complete set of iPhone APIs in Java : UIKit, CoreLocation,…
You can not only develop in Eclipse but also debug your app in it, while launching the iPhone SDK simulator. It\’s super easy to port your pre existing java code to iPhone (e.g. MIDlets).
Plus iSpectrum is free for open source project.
-> http://www.flexycore.com

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