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]]> By: RickLithium http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-576297 RickLithium Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:51:53 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-576297 LULZ @ the M$ fanboys trash talking Linux while not knowing a thing about it... and commenting on an article from 2009 in 2012 to voice their displeasure on a topic they are likely not even remotely qualified to comment on. YES, THE WORLD *IS* MOVING TOWARDS OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE. Did you even take the time to read the post about Microsoft utilizing FOSS in their construction of Hyper-V, and thus breaching the GPL? Also, are you so asinine as to fail to realize that more than 90% of web servers, corporate databases, and super-computers use Linux? Have fun rationalizing your belief in the propaganda and lies being spoon fed to you by the likes of M$. I am not a Microsoft hating fanboy; I am an informed, educated individual who uses the knowledge he possesses to make proper decisions. If your info is bad, so too shall be your decisions based upon said info. I have a dual boot config, using Windows 7 and Ubuntu. Android IS Linux, because the Kernel is the fundamental basis of the core inner workings of the OS, and yes, the kernel and the OS are separate entities, but they work together intrinsically, and neither will function, much less even be USEFUL, without the other. And in response to the moron saying Linux users should be banned from using M$ software, your ignorance and utter stupidity implies you should be banned from using computer technology in general. LULZ @ the M$ fanboys trash talking Linux while not knowing a thing about it… and commenting on an article from 2009 in 2012 to voice their displeasure on a topic they are likely not even remotely qualified to comment on. YES, THE WORLD *IS* MOVING TOWARDS OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE. Did you even take the time to read the post about Microsoft utilizing FOSS in their construction of Hyper-V, and thus breaching the GPL? Also, are you so asinine as to fail to realize that more than 90% of web servers, corporate databases, and super-computers use Linux? Have fun rationalizing your belief in the propaganda and lies being spoon fed to you by the likes of M$. I am not a Microsoft hating fanboy; I am an informed, educated individual who uses the knowledge he possesses to make proper decisions. If your info is bad, so too shall be your decisions based upon said info. I have a dual boot config, using Windows 7 and Ubuntu. Android IS Linux, because the Kernel is the fundamental basis of the core inner workings of the OS, and yes, the kernel and the OS are separate entities, but they work together intrinsically, and neither will function, much less even be USEFUL, without the other. And in response to the moron saying Linux users should be banned from using M$ software, your ignorance and utter stupidity implies you should be banned from using computer technology in general.

]]> By: Joe http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-173229 Joe Tue, 27 Mar 2012 03:06:49 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-173229 Personally, I think Microsoft hating Linux fanboys should banned from ever using a Microsoft product, ever. Personally, I think Microsoft hating Linux fanboys should banned from ever using a Microsoft product, ever.

]]> By: Joe http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-173217 Joe Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:49:40 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-173217 "Microsoft has well realized that the world is moving towards free software and that users are implementing Linux in their infrastructure." LOL! You Linux idiots and your delusions of grandeur. The world is not moving to Linux. How long have you dumb twats been saying that, and Linux still has what, a paltry 1% market share. Linux is going nowhere because it's a fucking nightmare compared to Windows or OS X. Having a hardware problem, a driver problem, or a software problem? God help the non-techies. Nobody going to use this thing aside from Microsoft hating tech idiots who constantly want to tweak their setup to keep it running, because that's what happens with Linux. Please spare me the "Android is Linux" bullshit. It's built on a Linux kernel, but it's not Linux. Considering the nightmarish driver problems Linux is notorious for, you ought to be thankful that someone that has a fucking clue is giving the idiots at the Linux foundation a hand. You people are living in fantasy land and Linux sucks. “Microsoft has well realized that the world is moving towards free software and that users are implementing Linux in their infrastructure.”

LOL! You Linux idiots and your delusions of grandeur. The world is not moving to Linux. How long have you dumb twats been saying that, and Linux still has what, a paltry 1% market share. Linux is going nowhere because it’s a fucking nightmare compared to Windows or OS X. Having a hardware problem, a driver problem, or a software problem? God help the non-techies. Nobody going to use this thing aside from Microsoft hating tech idiots who constantly want to tweak their setup to keep it running, because that’s what happens with Linux. Please spare me the “Android is Linux” bullshit. It’s built on a Linux kernel, but it’s not Linux.

Considering the nightmarish driver problems Linux is notorious for, you ought to be thankful that someone that has a fucking clue is giving the idiots at the Linux foundation a hand.

You people are living in fantasy land and Linux sucks.

]]> By: ronys http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6750 ronys Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6750 <p>Virtualization != Visualization. Whatever happened to editors reviewing an article before publication? </p> Virtualization != Visualization. Whatever happened to editors reviewing an article before publication?

]]> By: pff21@yahoo.com http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6751 pff21@yahoo.com Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6751 <p>“This move is purely a strategic one in order to remain in the visualization race.”</p> <p>Shouldn’t this read</p> <p>“This move is purely a _tactical_ one in order to remain in the _virtualization_ race.”</p> <p>? </p> “This move is purely a strategic one in order to remain in the visualization race.”

Shouldn’t this read

“This move is purely a _tactical_ one in order to remain in the _virtualization_ race.”

?

]]> By: jgabler http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6752 jgabler Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6752 <p>I think its easy to pass this off as not a big deal, just some drivers, just selfish motives. But, you know, it says that Microsoft has realized that if it will attempt to stay on top it must play nicely with the open source community. Whatever the code constitutes, whatever the reason\'s for contributing and releasing the code are, Microsoft has conceded, in the most positive way to date, that open source is a driving force in how it goes about its business. Now, I\'m not expecting love and marriage, ever. I\'m just going to sit back and enjoy this... </p> I think its easy to pass this off as not a big deal, just some drivers, just selfish motives. But, you know, it says that Microsoft has realized that if it will attempt to stay on top it must play nicely with the open source community. Whatever the code constitutes, whatever the reason\’s for contributing and releasing the code are, Microsoft has conceded, in the most positive way to date, that open source is a driving force in how it goes about its business. Now, I\’m not expecting love and marriage, ever. I\’m just going to sit back and enjoy this…

]]> By: iain http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6753 iain Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6753 <p>Microsoft definitely plays a selfish game. The only contribution to advance its own operations? Is quickly becoming a tighter game for both communities to have driver code included in the Linux system. </p> <p>I like both systems, and its obvious where the money is going, so drivers for Linux are a good thing regardless of who it came from.</p> <p>Nice to have virtualisation, but difficult for the open source community to advance Microsoft\'s stake in an open source world. Take advantage of any contribution. </p> Microsoft definitely plays a selfish game. The only contribution to advance its own operations? Is quickly becoming a tighter game for both communities to have driver code included in the Linux system.

I like both systems, and its obvious where the money is going, so drivers for Linux are a good thing regardless of who it came from.

Nice to have virtualisation, but difficult for the open source community to advance Microsoft\’s stake in an open source world. Take advantage of any contribution.

]]> By: wiggledbits http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6754 wiggledbits Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6754 <p>I agree with iain,<br /> I don\'t have a choice that my company is a mainly MS shop. Until I got here they didn\'t even add water to their MS cool-aid (They thought AMD CPUs had incompatibility problems.). To be able to visualize Linux more tightly with MS is good. Yes MS wants to sell more 2008 licenses but if this means I can add a Linux server or two to the mix COOL! </p> I agree with iain,
I don\’t have a choice that my company is a mainly MS shop. Until I got here they didn\’t even add water to their MS cool-aid (They thought AMD CPUs had incompatibility problems.). To be able to visualize Linux more tightly with MS is good. Yes MS wants to sell more 2008 licenses but if this means I can add a Linux server or two to the mix COOL!

]]> By: dangerismymiddlename http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6755 dangerismymiddlename Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6755 <p>Microsoft Technical Services sells and supports Linux through their partnership with Novell. Of course Microsoft doesn\'t want to kill it for real.</p> <p>Microsoft does have massive Linux-AND-MS-loving, customers that badly want to run Linux on Hyper-V (a/k/a Windows Server). Microsoft is trying to get that done. </p> <p>Microsoft has openly supported open source when it runs on MS OSs. Other examples of this are generally only known by folks in MS shops, because MS isn\'t writing articles for Linux Journal and the like. </p> Microsoft Technical Services sells and supports Linux through their partnership with Novell. Of course Microsoft doesn\’t want to kill it for real.

Microsoft does have massive Linux-AND-MS-loving, customers that badly want to run Linux on Hyper-V (a/k/a Windows Server). Microsoft is trying to get that done.

Microsoft has openly supported open source when it runs on MS OSs. Other examples of this are generally only known by folks in MS shops, because MS isn\’t writing articles for Linux Journal and the like.

]]> By: csmart http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6756 csmart Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6756 <p>Hey ronys and pff21, thanks for letting us know. That was probably due to selecting the wrong word in the spellchecker when changing my \"virtualisation\" to American English.<br /> -c </p> Hey ronys and pff21, thanks for letting us know. That was probably due to selecting the wrong word in the spellchecker when changing my \”virtualisation\” to American English.
-c

]]> By: avdalex http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6757 avdalex Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6757 <p>Linux Magazine and Christopher, thank you for writing a more balanced article on this subject. Negative thinking never leads to opening yourself to new things and new venues. But we should not get our guards down while swimming in the ocean with sharks, either. </p> <p>Simply, let\'s embrace the change and move on, and stay alert.</p> <p>Alex </p> Linux Magazine and Christopher, thank you for writing a more balanced article on this subject. Negative thinking never leads to opening yourself to new things and new venues. But we should not get our guards down while swimming in the ocean with sharks, either.

Simply, let\’s embrace the change and move on, and stay alert.

Alex

]]> By: graemeharrison http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6758 graemeharrison Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6758 <p>Chris (article author)... I just love those slight-mix-up English expressions that Agent Ziva David uses in NCIS. Where you said at end of article \"Microsoft knows free software is not going anywhere\", that is certainly what M$ would LIKE to think, but it is clear from the context that what you were trying to say is \"Microsoft knows free software is not going away\". While looking very similar, the two expressions have almost opposite meaning. Good article otherwise.<br /> Yours pedantically<br /> Graeme (prof at-symbol post.harvard.edu) </p> Chris (article author)… I just love those slight-mix-up English expressions that Agent Ziva David uses in NCIS. Where you said at end of article \”Microsoft knows free software is not going anywhere\”, that is certainly what M$ would LIKE to think, but it is clear from the context that what you were trying to say is \”Microsoft knows free software is not going away\”. While looking very similar, the two expressions have almost opposite meaning. Good article otherwise.
Yours pedantically
Graeme (prof at-symbol post.harvard.edu)

]]> By: version7x http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6759 version7x Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6759 <p>Or.... we went to press before we had the whole story... (from the Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/23/microsoft_open_source_science/)</p> <p>\"because two days after Microsoft broke the news about the 20,000-code donation with huge fanfare and much back slapping, it emerged that the Linux driver Microsoft contributed had actually violated the terms of the GPL.\"</p> <p>Microsoft\'s donation has nothing to do with a change, and not so much to do with it\'s virtualization strategy as it had to do with \"whoops!\"</p> <p>So the company thats been called a \"Predatory Monopoly\", has been convicted of Anti-Trust violations in several contries, has been convicted of Evidence tampering, etc... has now been discovered to be violaters of copyright law also! </p> Or…. we went to press before we had the whole story… (from the Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/23/microsoft_open_source_science/)

\”because two days after Microsoft broke the news about the 20,000-code donation with huge fanfare and much back slapping, it emerged that the Linux driver Microsoft contributed had actually violated the terms of the GPL.\”

Microsoft\’s donation has nothing to do with a change, and not so much to do with it\’s virtualization strategy as it had to do with \”whoops!\”

So the company thats been called a \”Predatory Monopoly\”, has been convicted of Anti-Trust violations in several contries, has been convicted of Evidence tampering, etc… has now been discovered to be violaters of copyright law also!

]]> By: bendib http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6760 bendib Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6760 <p>I will be compiling my own kernels without this code in it. Linus has created a great OS, but he does not see things correctly. He must have forgotten the 98 antitrust case. I actually wrote him warning him and he wrote back denying it.<br /> Actually, microsoft monsters like Ballmer and Gates deserve to be hung in a public event, with linux users free to throw whatever we want at them. I would throw buckets of battery acid on them.<br /> Please, email linus, tell him not to include the drivers. His email is at the bottom of this post.<br /> Be nice, but kindly ask him not to include them. I am not directing this post to someone else, I am directing it to YOU, the reader or whoever is reading this, no exeptions. Just send an email telling him not to include microsoft drivers. Even if you are pro MS, you would cause us anti-M$ linux users a lot of grief by not sending an email, and we just want an MS free OS. If I find out enough emails were sent, and he does not include the drivers, I will stop making fun of windows users online. That\'s a promise.</p> <p>Linus Torvalds\' email is: torvalds@osdl.org </p> I will be compiling my own kernels without this code in it. Linus has created a great OS, but he does not see things correctly. He must have forgotten the 98 antitrust case. I actually wrote him warning him and he wrote back denying it.
Actually, microsoft monsters like Ballmer and Gates deserve to be hung in a public event, with linux users free to throw whatever we want at them. I would throw buckets of battery acid on them.
Please, email linus, tell him not to include the drivers. His email is at the bottom of this post.
Be nice, but kindly ask him not to include them. I am not directing this post to someone else, I am directing it to YOU, the reader or whoever is reading this, no exeptions. Just send an email telling him not to include microsoft drivers. Even if you are pro MS, you would cause us anti-M$ linux users a lot of grief by not sending an email, and we just want an MS free OS. If I find out enough emails were sent, and he does not include the drivers, I will stop making fun of windows users online. That\’s a promise.

Linus Torvalds\’ email is: torvalds@osdl.org

]]> By: lescoke http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6761 lescoke Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6761 <p>I prefer to keep M$ technologies sand-boxed within VM\'s running on Linux (better control over resources).</p> <p>Les </p> I prefer to keep M$ technologies sand-boxed within VM\’s running on Linux (better control over resources).

Les

]]> By: sharmag77 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6762 sharmag77 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6762 <p>>><br /> >> Actually, microsoft monsters like Ballmer and Gates deserve to be >> hung in a public event, with linux users free to throw whatever we >> want at them. I would throw buckets of battery acid on them.<br /> >><br /> @bendib and others:<br /> It is the juvenile attitudes like this that are giving open-source a bad name. Go away, and come back when you have grown up. </p> <p>Should politics govern how/what will be included in an open-source package? </p> >>
>> Actually, microsoft monsters like Ballmer and Gates deserve to be >> hung in a public event, with linux users free to throw whatever we >> want at them. I would throw buckets of battery acid on them.
>>
@bendib and others:
It is the juvenile attitudes like this that are giving open-source a bad name. Go away, and come back when you have grown up.

Should politics govern how/what will be included in an open-source package?

]]> By: sorrywhersthetoilet http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6763 sorrywhersthetoilet Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7439/#comment-6763 <p>If MS starts in that way, should be possible in te future to have the ie version for linux? </p> If MS starts in that way, should be possible in te future to have the ie version for linux?

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