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	<title>Comments on: I Have a Schedule to Keep &#8211; IO Schedulers</title>
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		<title>By: speed145a</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7120</link>
		<dc:creator>speed145a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very informative!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One question: when I cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler it shows additional entries:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;$ cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler&lt;br /&gt;
noop fifo anticipatory [deadline] cfq vr
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative!</p>
<p>One question: when I cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler it shows additional entries:</p>
<p>$ cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler<br />
noop fifo anticipatory [deadline] cfq vr</p>
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		<title>By: laytonjb</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7121</link>
		<dc:creator>laytonjb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@speed145a&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Glad you liked the article. I\&#039;m hoping to expand a little more in future articles to talk about how to tune various schedulers and how to measure the impact on workloads (probably just some benchmarks).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I\&#039;m not sure where the other two schedulers come from. A quick google didn\&#039;t turn up too much. Can you tell us about your distro and perhaps what the system is doing?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jeff
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@speed145a</p>
<p>Glad you liked the article. I\&#8217;m hoping to expand a little more in future articles to talk about how to tune various schedulers and how to measure the impact on workloads (probably just some benchmarks).</p>
<p>I\&#8217;m not sure where the other two schedulers come from. A quick google didn\&#8217;t turn up too much. Can you tell us about your distro and perhaps what the system is doing?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: speed145a</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7122</link>
		<dc:creator>speed145a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also tried a google search without any luck :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I\&#039;m running Arch with the 2.6.31-zen1 kernel.  I\&#039;m sure it\&#039;s something in the ZEN kernel...  or perhaps something to do with the BFS in the kernel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also tried a google search without any luck :-)</p>
<p>I\&#8217;m running Arch with the 2.6.31-zen1 kernel.  I\&#8217;m sure it\&#8217;s something in the ZEN kernel&#8230;  or perhaps something to do with the BFS in the kernel.</p>
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		<title>By: laytonjb</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7123</link>
		<dc:creator>laytonjb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@speed145a,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did some things around Xen but I wasn\&#039;t sure. In particular i did find references to vr-sched.c but I didn\&#039;t look at the code or find details of the scheduler. But I do think it\&#039;s around Xen somehow but I don\&#039;t know the purpose of the additional schedulers. Might be worth posting to an archlinux group.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jeff
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@speed145a,</p>
<p>I did some things around Xen but I wasn\&#8217;t sure. In particular i did find references to vr-sched.c but I didn\&#8217;t look at the code or find details of the scheduler. But I do think it\&#8217;s around Xen somehow but I don\&#8217;t know the purpose of the additional schedulers. Might be worth posting to an archlinux group.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: suresh17</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7124</link>
		<dc:creator>suresh17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do we really need to run update-grub after modifying menu.lst (it\&#039;s not lilo) Isn\&#039;t?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we really need to run update-grub after modifying menu.lst (it\&#8217;s not lilo) Isn\&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: suresh17</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7125</link>
		<dc:creator>suresh17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BTW, very nice articles by Jeff on Linux Magazine.. Actually I have become a fan of you! Thanks Jeff!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, very nice articles by Jeff on Linux Magazine.. Actually I have become a fan of you! Thanks Jeff!</p>
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		<title>By: richarson</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7126</link>
		<dc:creator>richarson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A little too late, but it might be useful anyway :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It\&#039;s not Xen but Zen: a kernel specifically patched to behave better on desktops, it includes several different patches and that\&#039;s where the extra schedulers come from.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here are some URLs:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.zen-kernel.org/&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.zen-kernel.org/about&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.zen-kernel.org/included-code
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little too late, but it might be useful anyway :)</p>
<p>It\&#8217;s not Xen but Zen: a kernel specifically patched to behave better on desktops, it includes several different patches and that\&#8217;s where the extra schedulers come from.</p>
<p>Here are some URLs:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zen-kernel.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zen-kernel.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.zen-kernel.org/about" rel="nofollow">http://www.zen-kernel.org/about</a><br />
<a href="http://www.zen-kernel.org/included-code" rel="nofollow">http://www.zen-kernel.org/included-code</a></p>
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		<title>By: richarson</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@suresh: it\&#039;s a Debian (and Ubuntu, etc.) thing, you don\&#039;t modify the boot parameters directly but some sort of a token (kopt) and then update-grub updates all your kernel entries.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@suresh: it\&#8217;s a Debian (and Ubuntu, etc.) thing, you don\&#8217;t modify the boot parameters directly but some sort of a token (kopt) and then update-grub updates all your kernel entries.</p>
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		<title>By: suresh17</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7128</link>
		<dc:creator>suresh17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@richarson: ah, ok. Thanks! I wasn\&#039;t aware of this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@richarson: ah, ok. Thanks! I wasn\&#8217;t aware of this.</p>
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		<title>By: grabur</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7129</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great introductory article.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Deadline here on Ubuntu 8.04.I\&#039;d be interested to know the advantages/benefits of using specific schedulers, and how the Linux ones compare with other OS kernel schedulers, is Linux an innovator here?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great introductory article.</p>
<p>Deadline here on Ubuntu 8.04.I\&#8217;d be interested to know the advantages/benefits of using specific schedulers, and how the Linux ones compare with other OS kernel schedulers, is Linux an innovator here?</p>
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		<title>By: idallen</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7564/#comment-7130</link>
		<dc:creator>idallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re: Using NOOP on an SSD.&lt;br /&gt;
I would worry that the lack of write ordering in NOOP would mean *more* writes to the SSD, since only adjacent requests would be merged.  The other schedulers would re-order all the outstanding writes and merge all the adjacent requests.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Using NOOP on an SSD.<br />
I would worry that the lack of write ordering in NOOP would mean *more* writes to the SSD, since only adjacent requests would be merged.  The other schedulers would re-order all the outstanding writes and merge all the adjacent requests.</p>
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