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		<title>By: pistol targets reactive</title>
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		<dc:creator>pistol targets reactive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 11:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article. Keep posting such kind of information on your site.
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		<title>By: rhaney</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here goes my list:

1) SuSE
2) Knoppix
3) Red Hat
4) Ubuntu
5) Slackware</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here goes my list:</p>
<p>1) SuSE<br />
2) Knoppix<br />
3) Red Hat<br />
4) Ubuntu<br />
5) Slackware</p>
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		<title>By: marketing online valencia</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great web site. Lots of useful info here. I am sending it to several friends ans additionally sharing in delicious. And certainly, thanks to your sweat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great web site. Lots of useful info here. I am sending it to several friends ans additionally sharing in delicious. And certainly, thanks to your sweat!</p>
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		<title>By: evulture</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What about Knoppix ???&lt;br /&gt;
Caldera was more important?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Knoppix was the first famous Live-CD (and non-commercial!!) and for me and I really think not only for me it was the first Distro on a PC I bought without any OS and I -as a absolutely non-tech managed to install it (due to a outstanding tutorial in German written by Fabian Franz) and get productive with Linux.&lt;br /&gt;
Even though I see myself still as a non-techie, I am a GNU/Linux-only user at home.
&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Knoppix ???<br />
Caldera was more important?</p>
<p>Knoppix was the first famous Live-CD (and non-commercial!!) and for me and I really think not only for me it was the first Distro on a PC I bought without any OS and I -as a absolutely non-tech managed to install it (due to a outstanding tutorial in German written by Fabian Franz) and get productive with Linux.<br />
Even though I see myself still as a non-techie, I am a GNU/Linux-only user at home.</p>
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		<title>By: ricegf</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7550</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent article, SJVN!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mandriva (originally Mandrake) makes my personal top 5 list, as it was Ubuntu before Ubuntu was cool - a remix of (in their case) Red Hat intended for the desktop newbie. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had tried Red Hat first and given up, because I couldn\&#039;t get it to &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; anything. A friend recommended Mandrake, and suddenly the advantages of Linux were obvious to me. I\&#039;ve never gone back, though I did eventually migrate to Ubuntu.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Mandrake lost a trademark lawsuit from a magician-centered comic strip of the same name - their prominent use of a magical top hat and shooting star probably didn\&#039;t help - leading to the name change to Mandriva a few years back.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I recently tried Kubuntu, and was very disappointed with KDE 4. A friend recommended Mandriva (deja vu!), and sure enough, it\&#039;s an excellent and quite polished KDE 4 distro. Should I decide to switch to KDE 4, life with Linux will have come full circle.
&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, SJVN!</p>
<p>Mandriva (originally Mandrake) makes my personal top 5 list, as it was Ubuntu before Ubuntu was cool &#8211; a remix of (in their case) Red Hat intended for the desktop newbie. </p>
<p>I had tried Red Hat first and given up, because I couldn\&#8217;t get it to <em>do</em> anything. A friend recommended Mandrake, and suddenly the advantages of Linux were obvious to me. I\&#8217;ve never gone back, though I did eventually migrate to Ubuntu.  </p>
<p>(Mandrake lost a trademark lawsuit from a magician-centered comic strip of the same name &#8211; their prominent use of a magical top hat and shooting star probably didn\&#8217;t help &#8211; leading to the name change to Mandriva a few years back.)</p>
<p>I recently tried Kubuntu, and was very disappointed with KDE 4. A friend recommended Mandriva (deja vu!), and sure enough, it\&#8217;s an excellent and quite polished KDE 4 distro. Should I decide to switch to KDE 4, life with Linux will have come full circle.</p>
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		<title>By: chavoux</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7551</link>
		<dc:creator>chavoux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For me SuSE was the first Linux distro I actually got running on my (old) desktop. Knoppix was also revolutionary and formed the basis of my second Linux installation that I used for most of my PhD GIS work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Currently, Mepis is my favorite Debian derivative.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also think the Knoppix should get a mention... I think it is mostly because of Knoppix that most Desktop Linux distros have a live CD/DVD today.
&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me SuSE was the first Linux distro I actually got running on my (old) desktop. Knoppix was also revolutionary and formed the basis of my second Linux installation that I used for most of my PhD GIS work.</p>
<p>Currently, Mepis is my favorite Debian derivative.</p>
<p>I also think the Knoppix should get a mention&#8230; I think it is mostly because of Knoppix that most Desktop Linux distros have a live CD/DVD today.</p>
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		<title>By: pogson</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7552</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I object to the use of the word \&quot;brief\&quot; to describe the duration of GNU/Linux. GNU was around since the 1980s and Linux since 1991. That is an eternity in tech terms. GNU/Linux is mature mainstream technology. The rapid development and hundreds of thousands of developers involved rather reflects the size and diversity of GNU/Linux rather than the stage of its development.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The distros that developed the common package managers have really allowed GNU/Linux to thrive, particularly Debian and RedHat. These packaging systems made GNU/Linux much easier to deploy by amateurs and professionals alike, a very broad spectrum of computer users. They also made it much easier for new distros to develop and to fill every possible niche.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe 2009 was the Year of GNU/Linux on the Desktop as most OEMs shipped it and the number of people in the world who have not heard/seen/used GNU/Linux dropped quickly with the netbook. 2009 was the year that GNU/Linux became mainstream on the desktop as it has been for years on the server. M$ took a hit to the bottom line over GNU/Linux in 2009. About half the people I offer to install GNU/Linux accept these days. People see it and want it.
&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I object to the use of the word \&#8221;brief\&#8221; to describe the duration of GNU/Linux. GNU was around since the 1980s and Linux since 1991. That is an eternity in tech terms. GNU/Linux is mature mainstream technology. The rapid development and hundreds of thousands of developers involved rather reflects the size and diversity of GNU/Linux rather than the stage of its development.</p>
<p>The distros that developed the common package managers have really allowed GNU/Linux to thrive, particularly Debian and RedHat. These packaging systems made GNU/Linux much easier to deploy by amateurs and professionals alike, a very broad spectrum of computer users. They also made it much easier for new distros to develop and to fill every possible niche.</p>
<p>I believe 2009 was the Year of GNU/Linux on the Desktop as most OEMs shipped it and the number of people in the world who have not heard/seen/used GNU/Linux dropped quickly with the netbook. 2009 was the year that GNU/Linux became mainstream on the desktop as it has been for years on the server. M$ took a hit to the bottom line over GNU/Linux in 2009. About half the people I offer to install GNU/Linux accept these days. People see it and want it.</p>
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		<title>By: mercibe</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7553</link>
		<dc:creator>mercibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great article.  The next milestone on the Linux road might be Linux Mint (2008), a variant of Ubuntu.  This is the first Linux distribution I would confidently let my mother in law install by herself.  I have been using Linux as my main operating system since 15 years: Slackware(3 years), Debian(8 years) and Xubuntu(4 years) were on my road.  Mint is on my 2010 New Year\&#039;s resolutions list...
&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  The next milestone on the Linux road might be Linux Mint (2008), a variant of Ubuntu.  This is the first Linux distribution I would confidently let my mother in law install by herself.  I have been using Linux as my main operating system since 15 years: Slackware(3 years), Debian(8 years) and Xubuntu(4 years) were on my road.  Mint is on my 2010 New Year\&#8217;s resolutions list&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dragonwisard</title>
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		<dc:creator>dragonwisard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@SJVN: Thanks! It\&#039;s a good article.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@mercibe: What about Moblin or ChromeOS? I think the next major (as in historically significant) distro won\&#039;t be a desktop distro but a Netbook/Cloud distro. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we can\&#039;t win in the Netbook market with Moblin, which is clearly superior to Windows for that hardware, then we\&#039;ll never win. If Moblin fails to displace Windows in Netbooks this year I will really feel that the distro community has dropped the ball.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And to be clear, I want it to be installed at the factory. I don\&#039;t care how easy to install it is, if the user has to do it that\&#039;s an extra step that won\&#039;t get done.
&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SJVN: Thanks! It\&#8217;s a good article.</p>
<p>@mercibe: What about Moblin or ChromeOS? I think the next major (as in historically significant) distro won\&#8217;t be a desktop distro but a Netbook/Cloud distro. </p>
<p>If we can\&#8217;t win in the Netbook market with Moblin, which is clearly superior to Windows for that hardware, then we\&#8217;ll never win. If Moblin fails to displace Windows in Netbooks this year I will really feel that the distro community has dropped the ball.</p>
<p>And to be clear, I want it to be installed at the factory. I don\&#8217;t care how easy to install it is, if the user has to do it that\&#8217;s an extra step that won\&#8217;t get done.</p>
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		<title>By: jkgruet</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkgruet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very nice article.  I do tend to agree with &lt;strong&gt;evulture&lt;/strong&gt; that the &lt;em&gt;Knoppix&lt;/em&gt; Live-CD should make the list.  Perhaps instead of a \&quot;top five\&quot; list, it should be \&quot;top six\&quot;?  Of course, then there\&#039;d be pressure for a \&quot;top seven\&quot;, \&quot;top eight\&quot; . . . \&quot;top 200\&quot; . . . .
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice article.  I do tend to agree with <strong>evulture</strong> that the <em>Knoppix</em> Live-CD should make the list.  Perhaps instead of a \&#8221;top five\&#8221; list, it should be \&#8221;top six\&#8221;?  Of course, then there\&#8217;d be pressure for a \&#8221;top seven\&#8221;, \&#8221;top eight\&#8221; . . . \&#8221;top 200\&#8221; . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: ruel24</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7556</link>
		<dc:creator>ruel24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My 5:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Slackware - duh!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Red Hat Linux - First commercially viable distro and first to capture public\&#039;s attention in any large numbers. You can practically attribute the widespread use of Linux to Red Hat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Debian - duh!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mandrake - First truly desktop oriented distro for the masses complete with easy installer and GUI tools.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Knoppix - First? LiveCD and definitely the first widely distributed LiveCD, if not. It opened the doors foor all the Debian spinoff distros like Ubuntu.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 5:</p>
<p>Slackware &#8211; duh!</p>
<p>Red Hat Linux &#8211; First commercially viable distro and first to capture public\&#8217;s attention in any large numbers. You can practically attribute the widespread use of Linux to Red Hat.</p>
<p>Debian &#8211; duh!</p>
<p>Mandrake &#8211; First truly desktop oriented distro for the masses complete with easy installer and GUI tools.</p>
<p>Knoppix &#8211; First? LiveCD and definitely the first widely distributed LiveCD, if not. It opened the doors foor all the Debian spinoff distros like Ubuntu.</p>
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		<title>By: dantrevino</title>
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		<dc:creator>dantrevino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mandrake was initially just warmed over RedHat, and didnt do a particularly better job of being desktop oriented.  They just changed colors and icons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Caldera was mediocre at best.  Their only claim to fame being the first real Linux to try to get on commercial desktops.  Unfortunately they probably turned more people away from Linux than to it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That being said....&lt;br /&gt;
1. Slackware&lt;br /&gt;
2. Redhat&lt;br /&gt;
3. Debian&lt;br /&gt;
4. Knoppix&lt;br /&gt;
5. Ubuntu
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandrake was initially just warmed over RedHat, and didnt do a particularly better job of being desktop oriented.  They just changed colors and icons.</p>
<p>Caldera was mediocre at best.  Their only claim to fame being the first real Linux to try to get on commercial desktops.  Unfortunately they probably turned more people away from Linux than to it.</p>
<p>That being said&#8230;.<br />
1. Slackware<br />
2. Redhat<br />
3. Debian<br />
4. Knoppix<br />
5. Ubuntu</p>
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		<title>By: gerlos</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My personal top five:&lt;br /&gt;
1. Debian: for the community-centered behaviour&lt;br /&gt;
2. Red Hat: for the first time people knew of something called gnu/linux, and they could try it&lt;br /&gt;
3. Mandriva: my first fully functional distro (tried red hat before, but no luck with it at that time), I think it\&#039;s important because it was one of the first distros newbie-orientered&lt;br /&gt;
4. Knoppix: because it made us see what incredible things you can do with gnu/linux and a CD...&lt;br /&gt;
5. Ubuntu: because they succeed in reaching an enormous user-base&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;regards
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal top five:<br />
1. Debian: for the community-centered behaviour<br />
2. Red Hat: for the first time people knew of something called gnu/linux, and they could try it<br />
3. Mandriva: my first fully functional distro (tried red hat before, but no luck with it at that time), I think it\&#8217;s important because it was one of the first distros newbie-orientered<br />
4. Knoppix: because it made us see what incredible things you can do with gnu/linux and a CD&#8230;<br />
5. Ubuntu: because they succeed in reaching an enormous user-base</p>
<p>regards</p>
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		<title>By: bfx81</title>
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		<dc:creator>bfx81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IMHO Gentoo missed:&lt;br /&gt;
Probably gentoo don\&#039;t have the widest user base, but without that distribution surely linux wouldn\&#039;t be the same.&lt;br /&gt;
I\&#039;m talking about all those not so evident aspect of linux, all those non functional features that thanks a full user-distributed source-based distribution, linux can now assure: stability, reliability, portability (that bring more freedom for all users) and efficiency.&lt;br /&gt;
Every developer write source-code. Without people that try to build that code in quite every architecture available, with different compilers, libraries, and all other things that make free-software customizable, the work needed for all others distribution would be really hardest than now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p2.xml&lt;br /&gt;
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When you put together a Linux distribution it\&#039;s really important that any bug fixes you create are sent upstream to the original developers. As I see it, this is one of the many ways that distribution creators contribute to Linux. We\&#039;re the guys who actually get all these different programs working as a unified whole. We should send our fixes upstream as we unify so that other users and distributions can benefit from our discoveries. If you decide to keep bug fixes to yourself, you\&#039;re not helping anyone; you\&#039;re just ensuring that a lot of people will waste time fixing the same problem over and over again. This kind of policy goes against the whole open source ethic and stunts the growth of Linux development. Maybe I should say that it \&quot;bugs\&quot; us all.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO Gentoo missed:<br />
Probably gentoo don\&#8217;t have the widest user base, but without that distribution surely linux wouldn\&#8217;t be the same.<br />
I\&#8217;m talking about all those not so evident aspect of linux, all those non functional features that thanks a full user-distributed source-based distribution, linux can now assure: stability, reliability, portability (that bring more freedom for all users) and efficiency.<br />
Every developer write source-code. Without people that try to build that code in quite every architecture available, with different compilers, libraries, and all other things that make free-software customizable, the work needed for all others distribution would be really hardest than now.</p>
<p>from <a href="http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p2.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p2.xml</a><br />
&#8212;&#8211;<br />
When you put together a Linux distribution it\&#8217;s really important that any bug fixes you create are sent upstream to the original developers. As I see it, this is one of the many ways that distribution creators contribute to Linux. We\&#8217;re the guys who actually get all these different programs working as a unified whole. We should send our fixes upstream as we unify so that other users and distributions can benefit from our discoveries. If you decide to keep bug fixes to yourself, you\&#8217;re not helping anyone; you\&#8217;re just ensuring that a lot of people will waste time fixing the same problem over and over again. This kind of policy goes against the whole open source ethic and stunts the growth of Linux development. Maybe I should say that it \&#8221;bugs\&#8221; us all.<br />
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		<title>By: ruel24</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruel24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With that thought, Ubuntu was just warmed over Debian, offered as either an installable or LiveCD. Are you kidding?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mandrake 7.0 changed desktop Linux for good. It had long left its position of Red Hat + KDE and became a seasoned product with it\&#039;s own solutions like the control center/drake tools and URPMI. It was a game changer, and many older Linux users point to Mandrake 7.0 being the first distro they could actually use and understand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ubuntu, IMO, is still little more than warmed over Debian. It doesn\&#039;t even stand on it\&#039;s own two feet, like Mandriva does. It has to rely on Debian to do the heavy lifting. That, in my mind, doesn\&#039;t put it in the same league as the other distros given, except Knoppix. Knoppix gets cred for being the first, though, and changing the game.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With that thought, Ubuntu was just warmed over Debian, offered as either an installable or LiveCD. Are you kidding?</p>
<p>Mandrake 7.0 changed desktop Linux for good. It had long left its position of Red Hat + KDE and became a seasoned product with it\&#8217;s own solutions like the control center/drake tools and URPMI. It was a game changer, and many older Linux users point to Mandrake 7.0 being the first distro they could actually use and understand.</p>
<p>Ubuntu, IMO, is still little more than warmed over Debian. It doesn\&#8217;t even stand on it\&#8217;s own two feet, like Mandriva does. It has to rely on Debian to do the heavy lifting. That, in my mind, doesn\&#8217;t put it in the same league as the other distros given, except Knoppix. Knoppix gets cred for being the first, though, and changing the game.</p>
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		<title>By: jshanab</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7561</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For me early Red Hat was what got me started tinkering but Gentoo was what brought it home for me. It gave me a better understanding and confidence such that I was able to convert all machines to linux. Distro just doesn\&#039;t matter as much once you  install a source distro. I am less dependent on any one package manager,wizard, or distro specific tool. The biggest problem is the \&quot;what did they call that command on this distro??, was it rc-update update-rc or checkcfg\&quot; syndrom, Nowadays I work with multiple distro\&#039;s daily while my windows machine at home has remained un-powered for years.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me early Red Hat was what got me started tinkering but Gentoo was what brought it home for me. It gave me a better understanding and confidence such that I was able to convert all machines to linux. Distro just doesn\&#8217;t matter as much once you  install a source distro. I am less dependent on any one package manager,wizard, or distro specific tool. The biggest problem is the \&#8221;what did they call that command on this distro??, was it rc-update update-rc or checkcfg\&#8221; syndrom, Nowadays I work with multiple distro\&#8217;s daily while my windows machine at home has remained un-powered for years.</p>
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		<title>By: uris</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7562</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Before Knoppix, it was SuSe (pre-Novell). They had the first live CD. I remember the first time I tried SuSe it was from a live CD that came in a linux magazine (Maximum Linux).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before Knoppix, it was SuSe (pre-Novell). They had the first live CD. I remember the first time I tried SuSe it was from a live CD that came in a linux magazine (Maximum Linux).</p>
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		<title>By: jceb</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7563</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My favorite Linux distro for enterprises is UCS (Univention Corporate Server). It integrates the latest technologies like Samba, OpenLDAP, Kerberos several groupware solutions aso. and offers them fully preconfigured. With an easy to use web interface everything is customizable. - I haven\&#039;t seen anything comparable on the server side.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite Linux distro for enterprises is UCS (Univention Corporate Server). It integrates the latest technologies like Samba, OpenLDAP, Kerberos several groupware solutions aso. and offers them fully preconfigured. With an easy to use web interface everything is customizable. &#8211; I haven\&#8217;t seen anything comparable on the server side.</p>
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		<title>By: zakhurlifesbane</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7564</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I\&#039;ll go along with Slack.  Their system had some hidden treasure that is being used today by SourceMage.  In fact the choices are sort of OK if you have to pick 5 but the reasoning behind Caldera is all wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Caldera gave us the per-seat license, the buying of dead item like DR-DOS and aggressive litigation, the buying of licenses from unpopular failed distros and the adoption of different names for more and more litigations.  Caldera showed us that you don\&#039;t have to be Microsoft to be predatory.  Remember that Caldera became the tail wagging the dog behind SCO and its infamous lawsuit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And on top of that, Caldera was the first to outsource lousy support for its \&quot;product\&quot;.  Believe me,I ran an office system on linux in 1997-2000 from router to servers to desktops, and I bought Caldera and shortly abandoned it after experience with their \&quot;support\&quot; which dismally failed to return three phone messages and sent an apology only after I sent in an email complaining.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, WordPerfect was sold many times, but one company that had it actually issued it for linux.  There was another face-changer.  THat outfit proved that you could develop dynamite extensions for a desktop and then paint yourself into a corner by refusing to share tham back into the community.  Any other readers remember the company?  I still have one of their disks.  Corel, the mental midgets of the trade, did a beautiful extension of KDE 1.4 and then would not share.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually, there was a time when it appeared Linux was forever destined for servers only.  Then a distro took the public portion of RedHat and combined it with KDE version 1.  It is not to be measured in terms of its own very modest success but in terms of its support for open-source and forever changing the fate of desktop linux.  No one would have done much with the desktop had it not been for the very outstanding initial success of Mandrake Linux in 1998-99.  Moreover, the email help lists it initiated were the most friendly around.  Red Hat help lists required flame-retardant underwear at the time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I\&#8217;ll go along with Slack.  Their system had some hidden treasure that is being used today by SourceMage.  In fact the choices are sort of OK if you have to pick 5 but the reasoning behind Caldera is all wrong.</p>
<p>Caldera gave us the per-seat license, the buying of dead item like DR-DOS and aggressive litigation, the buying of licenses from unpopular failed distros and the adoption of different names for more and more litigations.  Caldera showed us that you don\&#8217;t have to be Microsoft to be predatory.  Remember that Caldera became the tail wagging the dog behind SCO and its infamous lawsuit.</p>
<p>And on top of that, Caldera was the first to outsource lousy support for its \&#8221;product\&#8221;.  Believe me,I ran an office system on linux in 1997-2000 from router to servers to desktops, and I bought Caldera and shortly abandoned it after experience with their \&#8221;support\&#8221; which dismally failed to return three phone messages and sent an apology only after I sent in an email complaining.</p>
<p>Of course, WordPerfect was sold many times, but one company that had it actually issued it for linux.  There was another face-changer.  THat outfit proved that you could develop dynamite extensions for a desktop and then paint yourself into a corner by refusing to share tham back into the community.  Any other readers remember the company?  I still have one of their disks.  Corel, the mental midgets of the trade, did a beautiful extension of KDE 1.4 and then would not share.</p>
<p>Actually, there was a time when it appeared Linux was forever destined for servers only.  Then a distro took the public portion of RedHat and combined it with KDE version 1.  It is not to be measured in terms of its own very modest success but in terms of its support for open-source and forever changing the fate of desktop linux.  No one would have done much with the desktop had it not been for the very outstanding initial success of Mandrake Linux in 1998-99.  Moreover, the email help lists it initiated were the most friendly around.  Red Hat help lists required flame-retardant underwear at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: fbsduser</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7651/#comment-7565</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DemoLinux: The first LiveCD system, this one predates even knoppix.&lt;br /&gt;
WinLinux: First OS-in-a-file linux system (predates wubi by more than a decade).&lt;br /&gt;
SuSE: First distro to have entirelly graphical configuration tools, and a graphical package manager.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DemoLinux: The first LiveCD system, this one predates even knoppix.<br />
WinLinux: First OS-in-a-file linux system (predates wubi by more than a decade).<br />
SuSE: First distro to have entirelly graphical configuration tools, and a graphical package manager.</p>
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