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By: Ralph Nunn

Ralph Nunn — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:33:32 +0000

You said, “Simply put, it’s a matter of simplicity. If Microsoft makes a product that is easier to set up, manage, and configure for the end user, then Microsoft will get the business…….Free is the biggest joke out there.”

I think you totally miss the point. To begin with, the “free” part of open source software has little to do with cost, but a lot to do with the availability of the source code and the freedom to do with as you wish.

Most small businesses do not initially set-up and configure, their own servers. They contract for these services usually with local IT services companies (which are often small businesses themselves).

The cost savings of SBS’ like ClearOS come from the elimination of license fees. However, there is still a cost in labor for initial set-up and on-going management/administration. That labor cost can either be in-house or outsourced.

The real benefit to the small business using open source is the “free”dom to totally control their own destiny. Reduced cost is great, but not the most valuable benefit of open source.

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Anonymous Poster — Sat, 19 May 2012 04:21:17 +0000

Simply put, it’s a matter of simplicity. If Microsoft makes a product that is easier to set up, manage, and configure for the end user, then Microsoft will get the business. If *nix can find a way to make an operating system that does not require digging around in man pages, forums, and manual configuration files before Microsoft does the same thing, they have a chance.

The biggest problem, however, is the flawed mindset behind the “free” concept. Money makes the world go ’round. Every “free” thing out there has a limited shelf life before it is abandoned when the need to capitalize comes along. Programmers have to pay their bills, too. Free will make sense when I can get a free car, free power, free internet, free medical care, free everything… and I don’t mean tax-payer provided, but truly free. The water company won’t work for free. Why the hell would a good software engineer?

Notice how many “free” things online are fading away, trying to be advertiser supported at first then switching to a paid model or dying off? That’s because even something as simple as BANDWIDTH costs money. In the end, someone has to pay. Free is the biggest joke out there.

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By: alexunil

alexunil — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:56:54 +0000

ClearOS is released in Version 6.2 today.
And with the new Marketplace and (coming soon)Zarafa Groupware is it a very good alternative to sbs.
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By: NMA

NMA — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:24:56 +0000

Hello every body…

just to add some! ClearOS, Zentyal and SMEServer are both very good SBS. However i have to say that ClearOS (after spending more than 100H testing all solutions, and disruptions on update and upgrades) is better, or better… is faster, because i have tested all in same enviroment.

The only con… its they use CentOS distribution, and i really prefer Ubuntu, because they are kicking-ass’s with all they upgrade and implementations.

But life can’t be perfet, even if it’s wonderful :D

Greats to everyone and keep good jobs :D

By: JohnSmith

JohnSmith — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 03:59:05 +0000

“the graphical interface didn\’t work and and the console interface couldn\’t connect to port 82″

Wow. 15 years of supporting Linux & you still think it’s necessary to run a GUI on a server? You couldn’t read the site’s installation docs/user guide? Hummm…

Access the Webconfig through your web browser at https://hostname_or_ip_address:81. You must have port 81 accessible to do this

Funny how I found that in <10 secs. You sound more like a MCSE. The mind boggles.

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By: jceb

jceb — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Hi, regarding the summary at the end of your article I\’d like to point you to the Univention Coproate Server (UCS) which is a Debian based server system with a very similar software stack. It scales from small business up to really big installations with more than 80.000 users.

UCS additionally includes an LDAP replication mechanism, a web based management system with a policies that you can apply to numerous objects like users, groups aso., a customized Linux desktop also for mobile PC devices that are not constantly connected to the domain, a Thin Client infrastructure and a strong integration of the major groupware solutions Scalix, OpenExchange, Zarafa and by default Kolab.

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By: csmart

csmart — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Hi Jan,

I\'m sure that there are lots of similar distros around the place. It\'s a good market to try and break into!

Univention looks interesting, but if there is no free version for businesses you\'re unlikely to get a whole lot of traction. I think that the ClearFoundation is good - free OS and extra paid for services.

Cheers,
-c

By: icorreas

icorreas — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Hi,

Thanks for the post. Pretty good analysis of the disruption opportunities in the SBS market. I recently wrote a post in my blog pointing out very similar conclusions (http://blogs.ebox-platform.com/icorreas/2009/12/29/disrupting-the-market-of-smb-servers/).

We know pretty well ClearOS, as they are the most similar project to our own OSS product, eBox Platform (www.ebox-platform.com).

The main differences are:
* Some different functionalities (ClearOS has database integration and eBox does not, whereas eBox has VoIP integration and ClearOS does not)
* eBox integration framework seems to be more compact and better structured (this, of course, is a biased opinion and I would encourage anyone interested in this point to compare by themselves)
* ClearOS is based in CentOS, whereas eBox is based in Ubuntu LTS (and is also integrated as a package in Ubuntu Server)
* ClearOS integration technology is older than eBox
* ClearOS business model is tending toward serving the end-customer directly, whereas eBox is more focused in the channel (VARs and MSPs, with the eBox Control Center as the core of its proposal)

I hope I managed to add some interesting information to the article.

Cheers,

By: barrief

barrief — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

the answer is more than clear OS . Multiple distro are doing the same stuff. sometimes you even have to pay if you go over 5 users… wich seems not to be for clearos anymore… . an exemple : SME server is a good alternative. sme users : don\’t jump the ship too fast, the water could be colder than you think…. I am thinking about documentation, users community, etc etc. True we\’re waiting sme 8 , Once this will be out, sme will come back stronger than ever.

By: mmccloskey

mmccloskey — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

This article is wishful thinking becasue its main point, that OpenOS can be used by Microsoft shops to easily replace their servers, is unrealistic. I am a big fan of Linux but it requires an IT staff that is trained appropriately. The statement \”The installation is simple and the interface reasonably intuitive enough that non-Linux admins can look like pros\” is simply not true unless there is a Linux pro on hand to do the initial installation and setup.