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	<title>Comments on: Set Your Desktop Free, With Nouveau&#8217;s 3D</title>
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		<title>By: angrylizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>angrylizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just hope the project can improve the performance...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope the project can improve the performance&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sqrlking</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7708/#comment-7888</link>
		<dc:creator>sqrlking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Exciting! Good job noveau! Now we need native gaming apps that use it, someone should let steam know pedora now ships with a real, 3d, open source nvidia driver. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exciting! Good job noveau! Now we need native gaming apps that use it, someone should let steam know pedora now ships with a real, 3d, open source nvidia driver. :)</p>
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		<title>By: ddennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7708/#comment-7889</link>
		<dc:creator>ddennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not to knock the nouveau project, but most people I know using Linux already go out of their way to purchase a system with NVIDIA or purchase a NVIDIA-based card because they know their proprietary driver works so well (warts and all).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to knock the nouveau project, but most people I know using Linux already go out of their way to purchase a system with NVIDIA or purchase a NVIDIA-based card because they know their proprietary driver works so well (warts and all).</p>
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		<title>By: csmart</title>
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		<dc:creator>csmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ddennedy, that\&#039;s true for Desktops where you don\&#039;t need things like suspend and resume. Laptops are a different story. There\&#039;s no question that the NVIDIA driver for Linux is pretty good. What Nouveau enables is a well supported experience out of the box with 3D without the need to install those drivers. It\&#039;s easier for developers and distros to support.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Users who still want high FPS gaming support will still need NVIDIA\&#039;s driver.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-c
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ddennedy, that\&#8217;s true for Desktops where you don\&#8217;t need things like suspend and resume. Laptops are a different story. There\&#8217;s no question that the NVIDIA driver for Linux is pretty good. What Nouveau enables is a well supported experience out of the box with 3D without the need to install those drivers. It\&#8217;s easier for developers and distros to support.</p>
<p>Users who still want high FPS gaming support will still need NVIDIA\&#8217;s driver.</p>
<p>-c</p>
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		<title>By: golding</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7708/#comment-7891</link>
		<dc:creator>golding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Imagine if Kororaa Linux had been created with these drivers available!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OH, and BTW, \&quot;... will still need NVIDIA\&#039;s driver.\&quot; is not correct, they won\&#039;t \&quot;need\&quot;, just prefer, very different things.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards, Rob
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine if Kororaa Linux had been created with these drivers available!</p>
<p>OH, and BTW, \&#8221;&#8230; will still need NVIDIA\&#8217;s driver.\&#8221; is not correct, they won\&#8217;t \&#8221;need\&#8221;, just prefer, very different things.</p>
<p>Regards, Rob</p>
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		<title>By: cheezemanrich</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7708/#comment-7892</link>
		<dc:creator>cheezemanrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have to agree with golding.&lt;br /&gt;
My thoughts are, at least there are alternatives.&lt;br /&gt;
I currently only use Intel graphics because the drivers are open and work well with Linux.&lt;br /&gt;
If Nvidia was to open source their drivers then I would likely move in that direction due to the performance increase.&lt;br /&gt;
For now I will make the choice for a fully functional no crash laptop, albeit not the highest performing at least it\&#039;s stable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rich
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with golding.<br />
My thoughts are, at least there are alternatives.<br />
I currently only use Intel graphics because the drivers are open and work well with Linux.<br />
If Nvidia was to open source their drivers then I would likely move in that direction due to the performance increase.<br />
For now I will make the choice for a fully functional no crash laptop, albeit not the highest performing at least it\&#8217;s stable.</p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>By: pinnacom1964</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7708/#comment-7893</link>
		<dc:creator>pinnacom1964</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;While do understand your perception of the problem, Nvidia has graciously provided drivers for the Linux, albeit as a closed binary, and miminal 3D support. I do greatly appreciate their support (after all, no drivers, no purchase of their products)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The closed source binaries from Nvidia work well for me on Ubuntu.&lt;br /&gt;
While I\&#039;m not a power user, I do play 3D games and have no complaints. I prefer to purchase only Nvidia over video cards and motherboards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I applaud Nvidia and hope they continue their support.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While do understand your perception of the problem, Nvidia has graciously provided drivers for the Linux, albeit as a closed binary, and miminal 3D support. I do greatly appreciate their support (after all, no drivers, no purchase of their products)</p>
<p>The closed source binaries from Nvidia work well for me on Ubuntu.<br />
While I\&#8217;m not a power user, I do play 3D games and have no complaints. I prefer to purchase only Nvidia over video cards and motherboards.</p>
<p>I applaud Nvidia and hope they continue their support.</p>
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		<title>By: code933k</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7708/#comment-7894</link>
		<dc:creator>code933k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Definitely looking forward in Nouveau\&#039;s direction.  That is, better boot times (X starts really faster with modeset), nice 2D performance (not killer but good enough) free as in freedom.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, I\&#039;ll stay with Nvidia until Urban Terror becomes really playable.&lt;br /&gt;
I am sorry to say something like this but I\&#039;ve become quite addicted to this game so any work break means URT... And Nouveau doesn\&#039;t play well with URT -yet- even with a 9800M card...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Nvidia opens the Linux driver, then I\&#039;ll be more than glad to stay with it.&lt;br /&gt;
That\&#039;s the reason behind me having an Nvidia card: Just an accident, I was looking for an ATI (as in faster + open driver) but they didn\&#039;t had one in the laptop hardware I was targeting to...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheers and thank you very much Nouveau developers!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely looking forward in Nouveau\&#8217;s direction.  That is, better boot times (X starts really faster with modeset), nice 2D performance (not killer but good enough) free as in freedom.</p>
<p>However, I\&#8217;ll stay with Nvidia until Urban Terror becomes really playable.<br />
I am sorry to say something like this but I\&#8217;ve become quite addicted to this game so any work break means URT&#8230; And Nouveau doesn\&#8217;t play well with URT -yet- even with a 9800M card&#8230;</p>
<p>If Nvidia opens the Linux driver, then I\&#8217;ll be more than glad to stay with it.<br />
That\&#8217;s the reason behind me having an Nvidia card: Just an accident, I was looking for an ATI (as in faster + open driver) but they didn\&#8217;t had one in the laptop hardware I was targeting to&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers and thank you very much Nouveau developers!!</p>
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