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	<title>Comments on: Apple iGroups: Smart Networking or Dead on Arrival?</title>
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		<title>By: infwonder</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excuse me, but what does this have to do with \&quot;Linux\&quot; ???
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		<title>By: fableson</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@infwonder:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is about the mobile space -- sometimes that directly involves Linux based platforms such as Android or Palm Pre (and others).  And often we discuss market shaping items -- and Apple often shows up because of their market influence.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, I often write on things that I am working on... so if I am doing some iPhone or BlackBerry development, I write about those topics as I come across something of interest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If there is something in particular you would like to see, please feel free to let me know!  No promises that I can add value to a topic of interest to you, but I do appreciate constructive feedback.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Frank
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@infwonder:</p>
<p>It is about the mobile space &#8212; sometimes that directly involves Linux based platforms such as Android or Palm Pre (and others).  And often we discuss market shaping items &#8212; and Apple often shows up because of their market influence.</p>
<p>Also, I often write on things that I am working on&#8230; so if I am doing some iPhone or BlackBerry development, I write about those topics as I come across something of interest.</p>
<p>If there is something in particular you would like to see, please feel free to let me know!  No promises that I can add value to a topic of interest to you, but I do appreciate constructive feedback.</p>
<p>Frank</p>
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		<title>By: infwonder</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@fableson:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems that Apple is trying to catch up the \&quot;social networking\&quot; trend that may have became the main reason for people to use mobile devices these days. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My own little opinion is: It seems that for majority of (general) customers, \&quot;cloud computing\&quot; seems to be either under the carpet (think about EC2) or something like Gmail/MobileMe services. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it might be a good guess that Apple will try to keep its MobileMe services to live on by offering exclusive iGroup services to MobileMe users. For some point, it may be a good thing for users to have better control about \&quot;how social\&quot; that the social networking service they use should be. And that may gain Apple another win in the industry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now here is something we can compare with in the Linux world -- UbuntuOne. Following almost the same concept of .Mac/MobileMe, Canonical might eventually also have to figure out a similar way to provide more functionality to attract users.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe we don\&#039;t need another social network system. Yet maybe, just maybe, it turns out to be essential to any general customer-oriented cloud services to have some sort of integration with social networking. (think about Buzz in Gmail) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, would you like to comment on whether we\&#039;ll see something similar to \&quot;iGroup\&quot; for UbuntuOne? Or should you simply encourage them to copy the idea?
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<p>It seems that Apple is trying to catch up the \&#8221;social networking\&#8221; trend that may have became the main reason for people to use mobile devices these days. </p>
<p>My own little opinion is: It seems that for majority of (general) customers, \&#8221;cloud computing\&#8221; seems to be either under the carpet (think about EC2) or something like Gmail/MobileMe services. </p>
<p>I think it might be a good guess that Apple will try to keep its MobileMe services to live on by offering exclusive iGroup services to MobileMe users. For some point, it may be a good thing for users to have better control about \&#8221;how social\&#8221; that the social networking service they use should be. And that may gain Apple another win in the industry.</p>
<p>Now here is something we can compare with in the Linux world &#8212; UbuntuOne. Following almost the same concept of .Mac/MobileMe, Canonical might eventually also have to figure out a similar way to provide more functionality to attract users.</p>
<p>Maybe we don\&#8217;t need another social network system. Yet maybe, just maybe, it turns out to be essential to any general customer-oriented cloud services to have some sort of integration with social networking. (think about Buzz in Gmail) </p>
<p>So, would you like to comment on whether we\&#8217;ll see something similar to \&#8221;iGroup\&#8221; for UbuntuOne? Or should you simply encourage them to copy the idea?</p>
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		<title>By: neondiet</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; The initial connection may take place via a Personal Area Technology (PAN) such as Bluetooth &lt;/blockquote&gt;
 Every time I see a reference to PAM these days I remember the first time I read about it, I think back in 1996.  IBM had a prototype wearable Personal Area Network transmitter that could send / receive data through the skin.  Specifically the subcutaneous layer if I remember right and could communicate with up to 3 other devices at the same time.  Very handy for exchanging business cards with a handshake at meetings or events.
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<p> Every time I see a reference to PAM these days I remember the first time I read about it, I think back in 1996.  IBM had a prototype wearable Personal Area Network transmitter that could send / receive data through the skin.  Specifically the subcutaneous layer if I remember right and could communicate with up to 3 other devices at the same time.  Very handy for exchanging business cards with a handshake at meetings or events.</p>
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