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	<title>Comments on: Is Google Appifying Email a Good Thing?</title>
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		<title>By: desnotes</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7751/#comment-8244</link>
		<dc:creator>desnotes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We can\&#039;t expect Google to slow down and wait for the other email sponsors to catch up, can we. As I see it now, Facebook, mySpace, Twitter and others are trying be everywhere. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I carefully control my google email and will analyze the OAuth contextual gadgets before considering any just as the recent features like Buzz. But, again, we can\&#039;t expect google to approach Yahoo or other email groups and say, \&quot;here is what we\&#039;re doing and how, do you want to participate?\&quot; I think Yahoo is pretty smart in their own right and if they are interested, they will particicapte also.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can\&#8217;t expect Google to slow down and wait for the other email sponsors to catch up, can we. As I see it now, Facebook, mySpace, Twitter and others are trying be everywhere. </p>
<p>I carefully control my google email and will analyze the OAuth contextual gadgets before considering any just as the recent features like Buzz. But, again, we can\&#8217;t expect google to approach Yahoo or other email groups and say, \&#8221;here is what we\&#8217;re doing and how, do you want to participate?\&#8221; I think Yahoo is pretty smart in their own right and if they are interested, they will particicapte also.</p>
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		<title>By: dscherry</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7751/#comment-8245</link>
		<dc:creator>dscherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It\&#039;s important that the user\&#039;s data remains open format. The default access should be secure (locked or OFF until I turn it on).  And if the user\&#039;s data becomes accessible with new API\&#039;s, then those API\&#039;s should be published.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don\&#039;t think Google owes anyone more than that.  If an app looks good, I can turn it on, and if I don\&#039;t like where the apps are going, I can take my data and go somewhere else.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It\&#8217;s important that the user\&#8217;s data remains open format. The default access should be secure (locked or OFF until I turn it on).  And if the user\&#8217;s data becomes accessible with new API\&#8217;s, then those API\&#8217;s should be published.  </p>
<p>I don\&#8217;t think Google owes anyone more than that.  If an app looks good, I can turn it on, and if I don\&#8217;t like where the apps are going, I can take my data and go somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: mv99</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7751/#comment-8246</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Google is making the same mistakes Microsoft made and keeps making: ignoring standards and open protocols, and getting so impressed with themselves that they lose sight of the fact that there\&#039;s a world out there that ain\&#039;t them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Personally, I don\&#039;t use gmail or google apps.  No benefit. Lots of downside.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hopefully more people will catch on, as they did with MS.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is making the same mistakes Microsoft made and keeps making: ignoring standards and open protocols, and getting so impressed with themselves that they lose sight of the fact that there\&#8217;s a world out there that ain\&#8217;t them.</p>
<p>Personally, I don\&#8217;t use gmail or google apps.  No benefit. Lots of downside.  </p>
<p>Hopefully more people will catch on, as they did with MS.</p>
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		<title>By: korin43</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7751/#comment-8247</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why is your Google logo a jpg? It\&#039;s like 4 colors, just save it as a png or gif..
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		<title>By: tallship</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7751/#comment-8248</link>
		<dc:creator>tallship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It\&#039;s good to have concerns as well as encouragement for innovative thinking and the introduction of new technologies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the end we, collectively, as a whole, throw out was doesn\&#039;t work simply by neglecting to use it, while continuing to refine and tweak the things that do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I work on several research projects and participate in various ISOC groups. It takes forever to go that route, what some claim is the \&#039;correct\&#039; route.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we step back for a minute to think about how HTML and related aspects of our everyday computing got to where it is today, with all of the capabilities we take for granted, we have the Netscape wars to partially thank for that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When pointing out that Microsoft attempted to take us on a ride, unsuccessfully, with regards to much of what they proposed and introduced, let\&#039;s also look at what we did actually adopt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I recall reading what Lincoln Stein said about trying to maintain CGI.pm while the NetScape wars ensued, How it was so much work on a daily basis to make sure that you could take advantage of all the developments via his module.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But then after the dust settled we had all these kewl capabilities, some which we used, and some which were relegated to the annals of forgotteness (sic).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If someone (doesn\&#039;t matter who) introduces a concept that really takes off, then the standards bodies aren\&#039;t far behind in adopting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even more importantly, is the fact that regardless of whether they are found to be useful, something else new is usually dreamed up as a result that becomes a part of everyday life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My daughter once told me, oh, around third grade or so, that she wasn\&#039;t learning anything in school. I asked her a few questions, and then asked when she remembers learning those concepts. At that point she came to realize the cumulative knowledge that she had actually amassed, and how easy it is to overlook what you have, when you don\&#039;t look at where you once were.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let\&#039;s take a look at that again. In the article we talk about Pine, attachments, and the handling of eye candy in Linux clients just a few short years ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now let\&#039;s project where we might be in five more years with respect to our communications methodologies - coupling new software innovations with virtually unlimited bandwidth and CPU potentials.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Staggering. Will it look like it does now? hm...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It\&#8217;s good to have concerns as well as encouragement for innovative thinking and the introduction of new technologies.</p>
<p>In the end we, collectively, as a whole, throw out was doesn\&#8217;t work simply by neglecting to use it, while continuing to refine and tweak the things that do.</p>
<p>I work on several research projects and participate in various ISOC groups. It takes forever to go that route, what some claim is the \&#8217;correct\&#8217; route.</p>
<p>If we step back for a minute to think about how HTML and related aspects of our everyday computing got to where it is today, with all of the capabilities we take for granted, we have the Netscape wars to partially thank for that.</p>
<p>When pointing out that Microsoft attempted to take us on a ride, unsuccessfully, with regards to much of what they proposed and introduced, let\&#8217;s also look at what we did actually adopt.</p>
<p>I recall reading what Lincoln Stein said about trying to maintain CGI.pm while the NetScape wars ensued, How it was so much work on a daily basis to make sure that you could take advantage of all the developments via his module.</p>
<p>But then after the dust settled we had all these kewl capabilities, some which we used, and some which were relegated to the annals of forgotteness (sic).</p>
<p>If someone (doesn\&#8217;t matter who) introduces a concept that really takes off, then the standards bodies aren\&#8217;t far behind in adopting.</p>
<p>Even more importantly, is the fact that regardless of whether they are found to be useful, something else new is usually dreamed up as a result that becomes a part of everyday life.</p>
<p>My daughter once told me, oh, around third grade or so, that she wasn\&#8217;t learning anything in school. I asked her a few questions, and then asked when she remembers learning those concepts. At that point she came to realize the cumulative knowledge that she had actually amassed, and how easy it is to overlook what you have, when you don\&#8217;t look at where you once were.</p>
<p>Let\&#8217;s take a look at that again. In the article we talk about Pine, attachments, and the handling of eye candy in Linux clients just a few short years ago.</p>
<p>Now let\&#8217;s project where we might be in five more years with respect to our communications methodologies &#8211; coupling new software innovations with virtually unlimited bandwidth and CPU potentials.</p>
<p>Staggering. Will it look like it does now? hm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: grabur</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7751/#comment-8249</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I\&#039;m really suspicious about handing anyone the keys to my address book and especially my inbox.  How does one know what each app has access to over OAuth?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I\&#8217;m really suspicious about handing anyone the keys to my address book and especially my inbox.  How does one know what each app has access to over OAuth?</p>
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