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		<title>By: lsytcml</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7942/#comment-144089</link>
		<dc:creator>lsytcml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>??? ??? ???????? ? linux, ??-?? ???? ? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????????????, ??? ??? ??, ??? ??? ??? ? ptyhon - &quot;batteries included&quot;.  ?? ??????? ???? ? debian ???.?? ???? ? ??????????? ???????? ??? ???????????, ??????? ??? ?????.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>??? ??? ???????? ? linux, ??-?? ???? ? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????????????, ??? ??? ??, ??? ??? ??? ? ptyhon &#8211; &#8220;batteries included&#8221;.  ?? ??????? ???? ? debian ???.?? ???? ? ??????????? ???????? ??? ???????????, ??????? ??? ?????.</p>
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		<title>By: MicroSuxIT</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7942/#comment-9469</link>
		<dc:creator>MicroSuxIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I run both. It’s 2011. Who really gives a damn about “resource hungry” these daze ? Oh well. The Open Source world is full of morons, I guess.&quot;

LOL, this coming from the guy who can&#039;t spell, and what does the year have to do with anything?  Dude, your IQ shines right through.  Not everyone wants to blow money every couple years to have the most updated technology.  Some people like to reuse some older technology.  Some people use netbooks that do not run high end technology.  Who cares why - some people just don&#039;t want a bogged down system just from OS processes.  It is about having the option to control what is running in the computer you own and what is affecting your computing experience.  If we wanted to be told how to run our OS, we wouldn&#039;t be using Linux.  The attitude you have is the perfect example of the typical Microsoft Windows or MAC OS user.  Go back to drinking that corporate juice and leave the thinking to the technologically competent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I run both. It’s 2011. Who really gives a damn about “resource hungry” these daze ? Oh well. The Open Source world is full of morons, I guess.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL, this coming from the guy who can&#8217;t spell, and what does the year have to do with anything?  Dude, your IQ shines right through.  Not everyone wants to blow money every couple years to have the most updated technology.  Some people like to reuse some older technology.  Some people use netbooks that do not run high end technology.  Who cares why &#8211; some people just don&#8217;t want a bogged down system just from OS processes.  It is about having the option to control what is running in the computer you own and what is affecting your computing experience.  If we wanted to be told how to run our OS, we wouldn&#8217;t be using Linux.  The attitude you have is the perfect example of the typical Microsoft Windows or MAC OS user.  Go back to drinking that corporate juice and leave the thinking to the technologically competent.</p>
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		<title>By: arenalgarden</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7942/#comment-8841</link>
		<dc:creator>arenalgarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m glad so see it gaining popularity since CannonBalls is getting ready to shoot themselves in the foot.&lt;br /&gt;
It wouldn&#039;t surprise me to see Mint stop making Ubuntu versions all together and completely focus on Debian.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad so see it gaining popularity since CannonBalls is getting ready to shoot themselves in the foot.<br />
It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to see Mint stop making Ubuntu versions all together and completely focus on Debian.</p>
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		<title>By: tlroche</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlroche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m currently running Ubuntu Lucid, and am mostly happy. The main things that bug me are&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* reinstall @ version change. (Consensus seems to be, reinstall works better than upgrade.)&lt;br /&gt;
* additional twiddling required to use non-free media.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hence I&#039;m considering moving from Ubuntu to LMDE: I&#039;m told that LM handles the media problems, and DE == &quot;rolling releases&quot; (which seems like a misnomer to me--wouldn&#039;t &quot;release freedom&quot; be more accurate?--but I digress).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I&#039;d like to more about one thing first: how does package management in LMDE compare to package management in Ubuntu? Particularly, I&#039;d like to know about &lt;code&gt;aptitude&lt;/code&gt;, which CLI I typically use for package management (e.g. install, update). Does LMDE support this, or do all Mint editions (as I&#039;ve heard) require the use of Mint&#039;s own package-management tools?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently running Ubuntu Lucid, and am mostly happy. The main things that bug me are</p>
<p>* reinstall @ version change. (Consensus seems to be, reinstall works better than upgrade.)<br />
* additional twiddling required to use non-free media.</p>
<p>Hence I&#8217;m considering moving from Ubuntu to LMDE: I&#8217;m told that LM handles the media problems, and DE == &#8220;rolling releases&#8221; (which seems like a misnomer to me&#8211;wouldn&#8217;t &#8220;release freedom&#8221; be more accurate?&#8211;but I digress).</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d like to more about one thing first: how does package management in LMDE compare to package management in Ubuntu? Particularly, I&#8217;d like to know about <code>aptitude</code>, which CLI I typically use for package management (e.g. install, update). Does LMDE support this, or do all Mint editions (as I&#8217;ve heard) require the use of Mint&#8217;s own package-management tools?</p>
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		<title>By: butibum</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7942/#comment-8843</link>
		<dc:creator>butibum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@tiroche: Based on only a short run with LMDE I can tell you that aptitude is there and it works - sudo aptitude safe-upgrade after installing worked really well. Mint has always supported both GUI Synaptic, Software Center, as well as dpkg, apt-get and aptitude.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Get a live DVD, give it a spin, you will probably be hooked :=)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have not yet encountered what happens when you go searching for 3rd party non PPA type software, will the Ubuntu version work if there is no Debian? and so on......&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I read somewhere recently, or else heard Clem say it on a podcast, that the LMDE is also much less resource hungry than standard Mint. Cannot comment on that yet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tiroche: Based on only a short run with LMDE I can tell you that aptitude is there and it works &#8211; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade after installing worked really well. Mint has always supported both GUI Synaptic, Software Center, as well as dpkg, apt-get and aptitude.</p>
<p>Get a live DVD, give it a spin, you will probably be hooked :=)</p>
<p>I have not yet encountered what happens when you go searching for 3rd party non PPA type software, will the Ubuntu version work if there is no Debian? and so on&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I read somewhere recently, or else heard Clem say it on a podcast, that the LMDE is also much less resource hungry than standard Mint. Cannot comment on that yet.</p>
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		<title>By: arenalgarden</title>
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		<dc:creator>arenalgarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I run both. It&#039;s 2011. Who really gives a damn about &quot;resource hungry&quot; these daze ?&lt;br /&gt;
Oh well. The Open Source world is full of morons, I guess.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stallman has yet to discover completely free/open source soap.LOL
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run both. It&#8217;s 2011. Who really gives a damn about &#8220;resource hungry&#8221; these daze ?<br />
Oh well. The Open Source world is full of morons, I guess.</p>
<p>Stallman has yet to discover completely free/open source soap.LOL</p>
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		<title>By: gmcorwin</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7942/#comment-8845</link>
		<dc:creator>gmcorwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Linux Mint is going to succeed then they are going to need to fix the bottom panel problem(s) of it disappearing upon booting and fix the problem with the video drivers.  I am using the same video driver on OpenSuse 11.3 with no problems.  I give LMDE an F+.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Linux Mint is going to succeed then they are going to need to fix the bottom panel problem(s) of it disappearing upon booting and fix the problem with the video drivers.  I am using the same video driver on OpenSuse 11.3 with no problems.  I give LMDE an F+.</p>
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		<title>By: kajtek000</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7942/#comment-8846</link>
		<dc:creator>kajtek000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&gt; Who really gives a damn about &quot;resource hungry&quot; these daze?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe not you, but most of my computers are 4-5 years old, single CPU, 1-2GHz, &lt;=1GB memory and work just fine with Linux with resources to spare. Another reason Linux is an embedded OS king.&lt;br /&gt;
Just switched from KDE to GNOME because KDE was getting just too flashy, complicated, resource hungry and slow. XFCE and others ale a little too simplistic for me.&lt;br /&gt;
It is all about the choice and do not take that away!
&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Who really gives a damn about &#8220;resource hungry&#8221; these daze?</p>
<p>Maybe not you, but most of my computers are 4-5 years old, single CPU, 1-2GHz, &lt;=1GB memory and work just fine with Linux with resources to spare. Another reason Linux is an embedded OS king.<br />
Just switched from KDE to GNOME because KDE was getting just too flashy, complicated, resource hungry and slow. XFCE and others ale a little too simplistic for me.<br />
It is all about the choice and do not take that away!</p>
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		<title>By: chdslv</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7942/#comment-8847</link>
		<dc:creator>chdslv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why call it Nirvana? Has it or its developers become Buddhists?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, why add any additional programs to the LMDE? Aren&#039;t everything available in the Debian Repositories? Why not give a simple OS and let the users add any program to it? That way, the OS would be quite slim and users can take their time to find out which programs they need. Isn&#039;t Windows 7 a &#039;minimalist&quot; distro, even though it is bloated like a pregnant cow? (Sorry, cows!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whatever that&#039;s added other than the &quot;minimalist&#039; OS are developed by other people, soany user can add what he/she wants!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What say you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why call it Nirvana? Has it or its developers become Buddhists?</p>
<p>BTW, why add any additional programs to the LMDE? Aren&#8217;t everything available in the Debian Repositories? Why not give a simple OS and let the users add any program to it? That way, the OS would be quite slim and users can take their time to find out which programs they need. Isn&#8217;t Windows 7 a &#8216;minimalist&#8221; distro, even though it is bloated like a pregnant cow? (Sorry, cows!)</p>
<p>Whatever that&#8217;s added other than the &#8220;minimalist&#8217; OS are developed by other people, soany user can add what he/she wants!</p>
<p>What say you?</p>
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