Comments on: LibreOffice 3.3: First Impressions http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/ Open Source, Open Standards Sat, 05 Oct 2013 13:48:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: eavedrop44 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-625203 eavedrop44 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:35:34 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-625203 I wonder, is this is a function of the audience that Cuban reaches with his blog or if open source startup and quick profitability just don’t go hand-in-hand? <a href="http://www.jaxsportsradio.com" rel="nofollow">jaxsportsradio</a> <a href="http://www.kutawayssports.com" rel="nofollow">kutawayssports</a> <a href="http://www.lifesportravenna.com" rel="nofollow">lifesportravenna</a> I wonder, is this is a function of the audience that Cuban reaches with his blog or if open source startup and quick profitability just don’t go hand-in-hand? jaxsportsradio
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]]> By: eavedrop44 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-493917 eavedrop44 Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:42:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-493917 Finally, a Drupal site does not have to look as boring as the screen dumps above. drupal.org has many freely available themes for download.<a href="http://www.fashion-week-inn.com" rel="nofollow">fashion-week-inn</a> Finally, a Drupal site does not have to look as boring as the screen dumps above. drupal.org has many freely available themes for download.fashion-week-inn

]]> By: johnr http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-85115 johnr Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:00:27 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-85115 I am running Libre Office 3.4 on Windows XP SP3 and it is EXTREMELY SLOW - well over a minute to start up and load a medium size document - and it frequent stalls during editing with Windows showing "Not responding" in the title bar. Is there any fix for this or is it just the cost of "free" software? If so, then $300 or so for MS Office is a much better deal! I am running Libre Office 3.4 on Windows XP SP3 and it is EXTREMELY SLOW – well over a minute to start up and load a medium size document – and it frequent stalls during editing with Windows showing “Not responding” in the title bar. Is there any fix for this or is it just the cost of “free” software? If so, then $300 or so for MS Office is a much better deal!

]]> By: linuxlobo http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9508 linuxlobo Thu, 12 May 2011 06:51:38 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9508 Libre Office has replaced Open Office on most of my systems. It has worked great on Fedora 14, Linux Mint 10 and Fusion Linux 14. It gave me access to some of my old files that I could not under Open Office. I want to thank the Libre Office people for the courage to strike out on their own and not only maintain but improve their suite above Open Office. Libre Office has replaced Open Office on most of my systems. It has worked great on Fedora 14, Linux Mint 10 and Fusion Linux 14. It gave me access to some of my old files that I could not under Open Office.

I want to thank the Libre Office people for the courage to strike out on their own and not only maintain but improve their suite above Open Office.

]]> By: kuntergunt http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9491 kuntergunt Wed, 04 May 2011 19:41:21 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9491 http://mariadb.org/ http://mariadb.org/

]]> By: arjay http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9445 arjay Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:59:45 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9445 I switched to libreoffice from abiword and it lasted just one hour (on a linux desktop). LO is so slooooooooooooow it is appalling. It takes around 30 seconds to open a small spreadsheet. Then, if I mark a block of cells to cut and paste, the cursor freezes and everything is unusable for several seconds before I can paste to another part of the same spreadsheet, or to another spreadsheet. What cr*p. I tried LO running in a win XP virtual machine and it is MUCH faster. I then tried it on another PC with a different linux distro and it was just as slow - unusable for any length of time. Also, with a Brother MFC240C printer, it prints the first line of any text above the print space at the top of the page. I have to set the first line of text of a document 2 inches down the page to have a chance of it printing. Yuch - back to abiword I switched to libreoffice from abiword and it lasted just one hour (on a linux desktop). LO is so slooooooooooooow it is appalling. It takes around 30 seconds to open a small spreadsheet. Then, if I mark a block of cells to cut and paste, the cursor freezes and everything is unusable for several seconds before I can paste to another part of the same spreadsheet, or to another spreadsheet. What cr*p.

I tried LO running in a win XP virtual machine and it is MUCH faster. I then tried it on another PC with a different linux distro and it was just as slow – unusable for any length of time.

Also, with a Brother MFC240C printer, it prints the first line of any text above the print space at the top of the page. I have to set the first line of text of a document 2 inches down the page to have a chance of it printing.

Yuch – back to abiword

]]> By: timmytonawanda http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9440 timmytonawanda Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:31:15 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9440 I switched over to LibreOffice as soon as I found out it could open my old StarOffice documents. OpenOffice would not do that. I switched over to LibreOffice as soon as I found out it could open my old StarOffice documents. OpenOffice would not do that.

]]> By: yorkie http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9429 yorkie Wed, 20 Apr 2011 00:26:11 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9429 Hello from New Zealand, Just installed LibreOffice, as a Polytechnic Tutor I now use it for all my notes for the programming courses I teach here in the Bay of Plenty, and encourage my colleagues and students to try it.My programming is Java using Netbeans 6.9.1 on a Linux Mint 10 OS. Open Source is where the real innovation in software and hardware is now taking place. Quite simply it is a splendid tool to use and a credit to the development teams considerable effort. Hello from New Zealand,
Just installed LibreOffice, as a Polytechnic Tutor I now use it for all my notes for the programming courses I teach here in the Bay of Plenty, and encourage my colleagues and students to try it.My programming is Java using Netbeans 6.9.1 on a Linux Mint 10 OS. Open Source is where the real innovation in software and hardware is now taking place.
Quite simply it is a splendid tool to use and a credit to the development teams considerable effort.

]]> By: tadd http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9380 tadd Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:15:12 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9380 Have you tried Drizzle? http://wiki.drizzle.org/Main_Page Have you tried Drizzle?

http://wiki.drizzle.org/Main_Page

]]> By: jloveless http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9263 jloveless Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:57:58 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9263 Does anyone have a feel for what changes have been made to Base in LO? I know it is not widely used but it would be a good thing to see a solid Base for a change. To me, it never looked finished in OO. The manual for LO makes it seem like there have been many improvements. Maybe they came from Go? Does anyone have a feel for what changes have been made to Base in LO? I know it is not widely used but it would be a good thing to see a solid Base for a change. To me, it never looked finished in OO. The manual for LO makes it seem like there have been many improvements. Maybe they came from Go?

]]> By: John Harvey http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9257 John Harvey Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:42:07 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9257 The article is not talking about free in the sense of cost. It is talking about free as in freedom from control by a single corporation. The article is not talking about free in the sense of cost. It is talking about free as in freedom from control by a single corporation.

]]> By: Jan Meijer http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9253 Jan Meijer Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:36:36 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-9253 It makes you wonder when a spinoff of MySQL will come available .... It makes you wonder when a spinoff of MySQL will come available ….

]]> By: Ken Hess http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8924 Ken Hess Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:18:55 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8924 @radleym I did put in a warning to uninstall OO.o under Basics: Note: If you have OpenOffice.org installed, you should uninstall* it before installing LibreOffice. @radleym

I did put in a warning to uninstall OO.o under Basics:

Note: If you have OpenOffice.org installed, you should uninstall* it before installing LibreOffice.

]]> By: troym http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8912 troym Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8912 <p>Great article, although sad about Oracle's decisions involving openoffice and the developers, but I am going to be replacing it with LibreOffice because I support open source software. </p> Great article, although sad about Oracle’s decisions involving openoffice and the developers, but I am going to be replacing it with LibreOffice because I support open source software.

]]> By: njsharp http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8913 njsharp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8913 <p>Am I over-optimistic? I am really hoping for a much better LO IMPRESS experience when viewing and editing .ppt and .pptx files from colleagues running Powerpoint. I want the slides to look identical and I want to be able to read the notes. Not exactly overly demanding eh? Yes, I know there are font issues, but Jo Public wants that solved, not trotted out as an excuse.</p> <p>Neither (look, notes page) is true for me on OO.o 3.2.0 Build 9483 or:</p> <p>LibreOffice 3.3.0<br /> OOO330m12 (Build:2)<br /> libreoffice-build 3.2.99.3</p> <p>though (trivially) it was nice to be able to select and copy the above three lines (unlike OO.o's 'about' window), and the .pptx opened a lot faster with LO than OO. </p> Am I over-optimistic? I am really hoping for a much better LO IMPRESS experience when viewing and editing .ppt and .pptx files from colleagues running Powerpoint. I want the slides to look identical and I want to be able to read the notes. Not exactly overly demanding eh? Yes, I know there are font issues, but Jo Public wants that solved, not trotted out as an excuse.

Neither (look, notes page) is true for me on OO.o 3.2.0 Build 9483 or:

LibreOffice 3.3.0
OOO330m12 (Build:2)
libreoffice-build 3.2.99.3

though (trivially) it was nice to be able to select and copy the above three lines (unlike OO.o’s ‘about’ window), and the .pptx opened a lot faster with LO than OO.

]]> By: heeter http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8914 heeter Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8914 <p>Right out of the box, LO has been able to do what OO was not, slowly integrate into a 70 workstation office. Openoffice never made itself easy to use in a MSOffice-dominated building with MSOffice-dominated clientele. LO has been fully intergrated into the first workstation, and is installed and being worked with on 5 other workstations with more than positive results.</p> <p>The reality is that this thing has to work side by side with MSOffice, and OO never let itself think about reality. </p> Right out of the box, LO has been able to do what OO was not, slowly integrate into a 70 workstation office. Openoffice never made itself easy to use in a MSOffice-dominated building with MSOffice-dominated clientele. LO has been fully intergrated into the first workstation, and is installed and being worked with on 5 other workstations with more than positive results.

The reality is that this thing has to work side by side with MSOffice, and OO never let itself think about reality.

]]> By: oraldeckard http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8915 oraldeckard Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8915 <p>The article and comments make it sound like Open Office is no longer free. I went to OpenOffice.org and saw nothing to indicate a change, and the usual statement: The Free and Open Productivity Suite</p> <p>I did a search for any commentary regarding Open Office no longer being free and found nothing besides this article and comments.</p> <p>The license for Open Office is still LGPL.V3. </p> <p>What is the basis for implying that Open Office is no longer free? </p> The article and comments make it sound like Open Office is no longer free. I went to OpenOffice.org and saw nothing to indicate a change, and the usual statement: The Free and Open Productivity Suite

I did a search for any commentary regarding Open Office no longer being free and found nothing besides this article and comments.

The license for Open Office is still LGPL.V3.

What is the basis for implying that Open Office is no longer free?

]]> By: cjcox http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8916 cjcox Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8916 <p>Oracle has proven over and over and over that if what they "have" cannot be sold for profit, then it's dead. Thus Oracle has been divesting themselves of a ton of open source software by either getting out completely, or by pulling the plug on resources used by the open source project. The ONLY reason that OpenOffice is still around is because of StarOffice (the commercially sold variant that Oracle has). And with that said, there are other "open source" projects that Oracle is sponsoring (which do NOT make profit) and we MUST wonder when they too will get killed (and Oracle doesn't exactly give warning). Things like ocfs2 and btrfs come to mind.</p> <p>Sure, the GPL is the IP protector in these cases, just realize that so far, it seems very likely that Oracle will make any GPL project that it is a part of.... go through some pain....</p> <p>And... with that said, most big software companies are haters of the GPL and open source (truth be told). And that includes many of the companies that a lot of FOSS users think are their friends. Beware. </p> Oracle has proven over and over and over that if what they “have” cannot be sold for profit, then it’s dead. Thus Oracle has been divesting themselves of a ton of open source software by either getting out completely, or by pulling the plug on resources used by the open source project. The ONLY reason that OpenOffice is still around is because of StarOffice (the commercially sold variant that Oracle has). And with that said, there are other “open source” projects that Oracle is sponsoring (which do NOT make profit) and we MUST wonder when they too will get killed (and Oracle doesn’t exactly give warning). Things like ocfs2 and btrfs come to mind.

Sure, the GPL is the IP protector in these cases, just realize that so far, it seems very likely that Oracle will make any GPL project that it is a part of…. go through some pain….

And… with that said, most big software companies are haters of the GPL and open source (truth be told). And that includes many of the companies that a lot of FOSS users think are their friends. Beware.

]]> By: troym http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8917 troym Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8917 <p>Link to the survey:<br /> http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/deinstall </p> Link to the survey:
http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/deinstall

]]> By: oraldeckard http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8918 oraldeckard Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7959/#comment-8918 <p>Thank you both for your replies. I understand cjcox to say that pulling the plug or hindering is what we have come to expect from Oracle, and that the GPL is still protecting Open Office. </p> <p>But troum siad "...although sad about Oracle's decisions involving openoffice and the developers, ..." So what decisions have Oracle made involving Open Office ?</p> <p>If Open Office is going to be drug down by Oracle then I want off, but I'd like to know that that is true first. </p> Thank you both for your replies. I understand cjcox to say that pulling the plug or hindering is what we have come to expect from Oracle, and that the GPL is still protecting Open Office.

But troum siad “…although sad about Oracle’s decisions involving openoffice and the developers, …” So what decisions have Oracle made involving Open Office ?

If Open Office is going to be drug down by Oracle then I want off, but I’d like to know that that is true first.

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