Comments on: Apple Keeps Android Tablets at Bay with the iPad2

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By: Matthew Delaforce

Matthew Delaforce — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:29:07 +0000

After watching all the hype and adverts on TV where a Ipad seems to be the only piece of equipment one needs to live, lets supply every Africa child with an Ipad and Iphone, it might just stop them starving to death, or at least they can entertain themselves while they do.
I for one will use the first Ipad I buy as a live fire target holder, it’s just the right size for my .177 Air rifle targets at 500 yards.

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By: bart

bart — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:21:17 +0000

Agree with cbemerine. Just bought an ipad2. The device is good but the support software (itunes) and no root access is killing me. As a committed Linux (Ubuntu and Mint) user, this Apple system is just not what I need and are looking for another option.

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By: Marshal Radley

Marshal Radley — Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:20:46 +0000

1. So you agree with the people who compare cheap PCs to expensive Apples? Or just when you benefit?
2. I’ve been using a 7″ android with 2.2 then 2.3. The apps all scale fine so far. If you have evidence to the contrary, please be specific.
3. Same with the “lack” of apps for android – with 10s of thousands available for each, you need to be specific – what am I missing?
Repetition of unsubstantiated generalities won’t advance the discussion.

By: indigo196

indigo196 — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:00:31 +0000

Good thing Apple did not follow your logic in the past… they would have just given up.

By: indigo196

indigo196 — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 12:57:28 +0000

Well… there is a Xoom w/o – 3/4g – but comparing a device that has 3/4g and 32GB of built in memory to a device that does not have 3/4g and has 16GB of memory seems a bit… well skewed.

An Apple with the same memory and 3/4g would be $729. The Motorola device without 3/4g is coming (http://www.amazon.com/MOTOROLA-XOOM-Android-Tablet-Wi-Fi/dp/B0045FM6SU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1300798435&sr=8-2). This device will also have 32GB of internal memory. This device will be only $599. Which is the exact same price as the Apple 32GB model.

Both devices have an expansion slot for memory — something Apple leaves out.

By: aicsarehigh

aicsarehigh — Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:59:30 +0000

Ah, but the point was that people are and will continue to pay for the IPad more often than an Android-pad. That one salient fact totally negates any argument about open/closed. If no one buys it, does it matter if it’s open?

I work in IT consulting and have seen more IPads than I can count. Number of Android-pads seen in the wild:zero.

By: josir

josir — Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:15:06 +0000

Wake up man! With Android, you have extensions to disable Flash if you do not want to see it. The problem was not Flash. The problem is the site admin that do not respect users putting the landing page. If Flash didn’t exist, those lousy webdev would create another invasive technology.

By: josir

josir — Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:08:22 +0000

I do not agree with the “Kind of Fox news style of reporting”.
But the comparision with just ONE of thousand of android tablets was very simplistic.

For example, with my Archos 70 (US$300,00) I can watch videos in HD, plug it on my TV to see movies with Blueray resolution without having a Blueray expensive and bloated equipment.

I can surf in the web using Flash and watch YouTube at HD also.
I can plug the tablet on my Linux Box and upload/download videos, audios, photos without any hassle or extra softwares or locked apps.

As I am, there should be lots of happy users using Android tablets around the world: Italians, Indians, Brazilian are building their own tablets customized to their reality/culture.

Comparing just one Android model is a black and white vision.
Android is a rainbow that will let reviewers crazy :)

By: think2link

think2link — Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:16:01 +0000

makes more sense to me is the PCWorld comparison at http://www.pcworld.com/article/204779/samsung_galaxy_tab_vs_the_ipad_compare_for_yourself.html

By: think2link

think2link — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:52:43 +0000

Far from being a fair article. I expect the writer to compare both in terms of openness. This is the whole idea behind Linux OS. The amount of restrictions Apple imposes on what gets in and out of an IPad makes it worth much less what people are paying for. Sorry Apple sales folks.

By: cbemerine

cbemerine — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 06:07:07 +0000

I really want a Linux, root-able, tablet. No Root = Not Smart.

Even the Nokia N800 had two fully functional Micro USB slots back in 2006…it also had WiFi, Webcam, HD Video, GPS Slot, Bluetooth and more. So for any Linux tablet not to have that at a minimum in 2011 is simply unacceptable.

Now that Nokia has officially gone to the dark side; CEO from MS and $1 Billion pay out to focus on Windows 7, it is only a matter of time before it ceases to become a viable option…. At least now we all understand why they ignored Maemo (now Meego) and also know that Symbian will be paid lip service, but will fail as well. A Company like Microsoft does not spend $1 Billion to get their operating system onto your company’s phones with any long term interest in any other operating system.

I know there are full blown Linux tablets available, but telling me that it has Android, is not enough. Can I get access to Root, if so okay, if not I will not purchase it.

Ultimately we pay our hard earned money for a device, no way in HE double hockey sticks (LL) we should not expect to be able to put the software of our choice, free or purchased on the dang thing.

If not ROOT access, DO NOT PURCHASE! Ultimately it will only let you down, one way or another.

Bonus points if you verified that the chip-sets in he device our open sourced as well, non of the cellular company offerings are, they use proprietary chip-sets which can only come back to haunt you down the road…best to avoid them as well.

While the Kno Tablet is impressive, the Micro USB port is for support / client access only and that is too bad…but it does use Ubuntu, so may be rootable. Here are the specs:

$599 – Kno Single screen tablet

$899 – Kno Dual Screen tablet (opens like a book)

Dual-core ARM© Cortex™-A9 MPCore (1 GHz)
Nvidia Tegra T200 series CPU
512MB of RAM (probably have tablets with even more but Linux will run with less than this even)
16GB – 32GB storage
Two 14.1” screens (Dual version)
WiFi, Bluetooth, Accelerometer, Microphone, Headphone jack, Ambient Light sensor, etc…
6 hour battery life.
Micro USB port (client mode only – support services only…fail)
Audio formats supported: AAC-LC, ACC, MP3, WMA 10, PCM/WAV
Ubuntu 9.10

By: smastny

smastny — Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:00:05 +0000

One other thing of note. The cost comparison is not fully accurate either. You need to compare as close to apples to apples. The comparison from the Xoom and the ipad aren’t even close to the same. Try to pick a closer match, yes there is ipads that are 16GB, the Xoom is 32GB. Price difference is not nearly as considerable when comparing the 32 GB iPad or new iPad 2 as opposed to the Xoom. The difference is $100 or less.

By: myrddin22

myrddin22 — Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:01:12 +0000

“If we never see another site that starts with a Flash landing page, we all owe Steve Jobs at least a tiny bit of gratitude.”

Can I get an AMEN! Die Flash Die!

By: espinozaa

espinozaa — Fri, 04 Mar 2011 08:54:22 +0000

You are comparing xoom and ipad prices for different specs and your argument is that ppl dont have the option to buy xoom less than $800 but you are missing the point that you have the option of buying an android tablet just for $240(maybe less in china and india) for lower specs. And that’s a much better range than ipad.

And I’m a developer myself targeting both platforms. You are completely right if you meant games when you mentioned applications. But android has it’s unique advantages like widgets and accessing to phone contacts and utils which makes the richer vareity for apps.

Also for regular people it’s usually not about the price but about the trend. And it looks like you will be in the minority within 2-3 years.

By: amoeba13

amoeba13 — Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:16:22 +0000

Hmm, what about the Adam from Notion Ink? It has better specs than the iPad and I can use a SD memory card, usb flash drives (and usb devices for that matter) and it is priced like the apple iPad (starting at around $400 with standard glossy touch screen). The only problem with the Adam is availability, currently you need to order at least a month in advance (first run sold better than expected) and you can only get one (for now). Having setup an iPad for someone, I’ll wait…